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Small things that make you angry and you feel you can't mention elsewhere

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MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 11/06/2013 17:08

I was thinking that maybe we need one of those threads that reminds us we all have much more in common with each other, than any of us does with the misogynistic bigots. Smile

I don't know what the feministy equivalent of 'first world problem' is, but I bet there are loads of things you've been itching to point out annoy you, but don't start an AIBU about, or don't moan to your colleague/DH/mates about because it feels insignificant.

Maybe we can all have a good moan here - and maybe back each other up that these things typically aren't so small and insignificant really!

I will go first. I noticed the other day how, when I'm walking down a pavement, I automatically move to the side out of the way of busy men striding along with briefcases. Even when I'm busy. Confused Why do I do that? And how come I feel rude - and do get funny looks - when I don't do that?

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BlingLoving · 30/07/2013 14:42

Although I'm not sure this falls into the category of "can't talk about in rl" because I tend to do it anyway.... the number of my friends who have to pull out of planned evening activities because their DH suddenly can't get home in time to look after the DC. Last minute, or a day or two ahead, he suddenly announces he has to work (bad) or that he'd made plans but forgot to tell DW (worse). It drives me absolutely bonkers and its endemic.

GetYourSocksOff · 30/07/2013 10:15

NHS EU health insurance cards...

I filled in the online form. I filled in DH as additional partner. I filled in our DCs as dependants.

I received my card and wondered why nobody else's had arrived, I mentioned it to DH as I was about to chase them up.

They had arrived, but other three sent directly to DH.

I'm going to write to them...

TheDoctrineOfAllan · 29/07/2013 23:48

Looking for a new job at present, got sent a company website to look at, all the faces are male...

QueenStromba · 22/07/2013 20:09

They were good at the steak house we went to last night. I ordered offal as a starter and DP ordered something veggie and they got it right. They also put the bill in front of me when I asked for it and presented the card machine to me.

I always pay in restaurants because DP has never gotten around to activating his card for the joint account. I never noticed until he pointed it out to me that most waiters and waitresses try to offer the card machine to him despite the fact that I'm normally the one to ask for the bill because DP is shyer than me. It's only the very good waiters and waitresses that get it right.

skylerwhite · 22/07/2013 17:06

A friend from the US visited me recently - she told me that at her place of work, women have to wear skirts/dresses and 'hosiery' Shock
She would get fired if she turned up to work in trousers. I was aghast.

EBearhug · 22/07/2013 16:03

I really hate it when there is no Ms option on forms.

I hate having to use any title at all, and it's even rarer that there's the option of no title.

Mind you, I found it odd the other day when dealing with a supplier, and on being contacted by their call centre in Romania, I was addressed as Mrs Bearhug. That's not me! That's my mother! I've sort of got used to be Frau Bearhug when I visit German, and I do agree that actually having a single title for all adult women is more sensible than the mess we have, but I don't feel like Mrs Bearhug at all.

And I'd still prefer not to use any title at all.

GummyLopes · 22/07/2013 13:34

YY to the vegetarian/frothy coffee going to me and my male DP getting meat/expresso.

Also had this with the hotness of food - I like extra chillis etc, he doesn't, but that's the one they hand to him (although I suppose that might be connected with that macho thing of eating hot curry). Still quite telling though.

QueenStromba · 22/07/2013 13:14

On a related note. I can't remember who it was, but I was recently very happy to see just Ms and Mr on a dropdown menu.

QueenStromba · 22/07/2013 13:12

I really hate it when there is no Ms option on forms. If there's no Ms then I choose Mr. The other day I seriously considered buying something from elsewhere because of the lack of Ms when I was putting my details in. In the end I bought it but pointed out in their feedback form that they were probably losing business from women who don't want to be defined by their relationship with a man or think that their marital status has any bearing on buying crap on the internet.

I also get really wound up when I get post addressed to Miss. I've been Ms since I was about 12 because even before I knew about feminism I felt infantilised by Miss.

EduCated · 21/07/2013 19:34

It's weird, isn't it? I never really thought about food and drink being stereotyped by gender, but after the Vegetarian Shuffle, I've realised that actually certain things I do tend to associate more with either males or females Confused

ThisIsMyRealName · 21/07/2013 19:31

Don't know if this has been mentioned but all the posts about food being given to the wrong person made me think of coffee.

I take my coffee black. Always have; can't stand it with even a drop of milk in it just makes me feel sick for some reason. My (recently ex) partner likes milky, foamy coffees like Cappuccino or Mocha (and usually piled high with whipped cream!) Whenever we ordered drinks somewhere 90% of the time I would get handed the big frothy drink Hmm

And the other week I was with 3 male colleagues. We ordered 3 coffees and one green tea. You can guess which one was handed to me...

EduCated · 21/07/2013 18:08

Ah yes, like the 'lady doctor'. Not a doctor, but a lady doctor.

blessedwolf · 21/07/2013 14:49

Not sure if this has been mentioned - or even if it's the right thread - but my bug bear is that tv/radio/papers all refer to "tennis" and "women's tennis". Ditto for every other sport. Like there's the real game which men play, and then a sideline version for women.
That, and Inverdale.

filee777 · 21/07/2013 10:45

The guy in the pub that tells me how 'sorry' he feels for my DH for having to 'babysit' while I'm in the pub

DH fucking HATES the pub and I quite enjoy a drink with friends, what's the big fucking deal? He is not 'babysitting' they are his own fucking children!

Annoys the shit out of me.

Hamwidge · 21/07/2013 10:42

The cleaning cupboard for my workplace is inside the ladies toilet. So if anything is spilt or broken during a shift, the male staff ask the female staff to get the brush/cloth so inevitably the female staff member does the cleaning up.

SummerHoliDidi · 21/07/2013 10:36

Dp annoyed me last night. He told dd2 (3yo) that he couldn't carry her upstairs because he's "a weak and feeble woman". When I pulled him up on it and told him that the implication is that women are weak and feeble while men are big and strong, he got annoyed and says I'm reading things into it that weren't there.

I know he doesn't really believe that women are weak and feeble, but it doesn't really matter because that's the message he's sending dd2. He doesn't think he's sending her any sexist messages but he is, just little things, but constant little comments send a big message over time. All he needed to do was miss the "woman" off the end of his comment and it would have been perfectly fine. He just doesn't get it.

CaptChaos · 17/07/2013 18:53

The thing with the shirts is that usually we have to wear a waistcoat thing over it, so no flesh on display, but it's so hot that it's cooler to wear a T shirt...

Apparently she thinks she's really funny when she makes comments like that. All you need to get on is to be pretty, being able to do your job means squat.

I had honestly never come across sexism in the workplace before this place. I can't make too many waves right now, but we're moving in a couple of months which is when I will take this further. It's a really toxic place to work and I hate it, but, like so many others, we need the money.

AmyFarrahFowlerCooper · 17/07/2013 16:44

And doesn't her comments break some sort of law about sexual comments? Being a woman doesn't mean she can talk about the size of anything on your body or talk about revealing your cleavage.

EduCated · 17/07/2013 16:05

Shock Is there someone you can complain to who isn't the HR manager? If the tops are so thin you can see the tshirt, they're too bloody thin to expect people to wear them, surely!

CaptChaos · 17/07/2013 14:53

I work somewhere where the uniforms are crap and often come undone in the chest area, I therefore wear a T-shirt underneath, as I got sick of people making comments about 'letting it all hang out, hur hur hur' or 'giving us a sneak preview are you, love? hur hur hur' etc etc.

My HR manager called me over today to tell me that I am not allowed to wear a T-shirt under my shirt anymore, as the material of the shirt is so thin that you can see the T-shirt underneath. I told her that I would be continuing to wear it and explained why and she said, 'With boobs as big as yours, you'd think you'd want to show them off a bit more, a bit of cleavage never did anyone any harm'

GreenSkittles · 17/07/2013 14:03

No, the upstairs was half empty, I was just daft enough to sit right behind them instead of at a decent distance!

OctopusPete8 · 17/07/2013 11:14

That is awful green skittles did anyone glare at them?

GreenSkittles · 15/07/2013 13:55

I was on the bus to Oxford Friday morning, sitting behind two hungover middle aged businessmen. I couldn't help but overhear their conversation because it was so loud. They were happily slagging off a female (colleague I think) for no other reason than she was female, giggling about whether they could send her a text saying 'you are a fucking cunt' then blaming it on the alcohol.

The bald one was bragging about 'sexting' his teenage babysitter and complaining that he hadn't even got to snog her yet, he later answered a call from his wife telling her how much of an effort he made to pick up a goodie bag for her from their event and sounding every bit like a devoted husband, then after ending the call was laughing about her believing some lie he told her recently.

The overweight sidekick just kept babbling on about how he needed 'a pair of boobs to sleep on' and enthusiastically agreeing with every piece of misogyny that the other came out with.

Have included potential identifying details in case either twats wife reads MN.

DonutForMyself · 15/07/2013 13:16

I was pathetically grateful when DP pointed out how silly it was to have a woman on the cover of his geeky gadget magazine. He said he didn't really understand why they do it, because if someone has a subscription for a gadget magazine they don't need a picture of a good looking woman on the front to lure them in.

He is not a natural feminist, so I was happily Shock at his comments and agreed, saying "not only is it insulting to the women whose bodies are being used lure you in, but its also insulting your intelligence that they think that men will be convinced to buy something that they otherwise wouldn't, just because it is shown being held by a sexy woman".

His face went Confused and I left it there, but I think my point was made!

EduCated · 15/07/2013 12:26

Although on a positive note I went to an industry conference a couple of weeks ago where 5/6 speakers were women, just because they were the ones with the necessary knowledge/research/know-how. The conference was also chaired by a woman. The audience was probably slightly more women, but probably about 40/60, so not completely skewed.

Was lovely Smile