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Small things that make you angry and you feel you can't mention elsewhere

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MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 11/06/2013 17:08

I was thinking that maybe we need one of those threads that reminds us we all have much more in common with each other, than any of us does with the misogynistic bigots. Smile

I don't know what the feministy equivalent of 'first world problem' is, but I bet there are loads of things you've been itching to point out annoy you, but don't start an AIBU about, or don't moan to your colleague/DH/mates about because it feels insignificant.

Maybe we can all have a good moan here - and maybe back each other up that these things typically aren't so small and insignificant really!

I will go first. I noticed the other day how, when I'm walking down a pavement, I automatically move to the side out of the way of busy men striding along with briefcases. Even when I'm busy. Confused Why do I do that? And how come I feel rude - and do get funny looks - when I don't do that?

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Lastofthepodpeople · 11/06/2013 20:42

I have a colleague who calls me 'young lady'. I'm in my thirties. Irritates the hell out of me.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 11/06/2013 20:41

Also when asked what if I'm Miss or Mrs, I say neither OR Ms. But for some reason I always feel like I am being trivial or pedantic.

Why can't titles be optional? Why can't they just ask 'do you use a professional title?' so Doctors and Baronets can be covered but the rest of us go by our first name and surname? WHY IS IT SO HARD?

weebarra · 11/06/2013 20:41

The act of a father looking after his child being described as "baby-sitting" really annoys me.
Also my otherwise lovely SILs insist on making a big deal of the fact that my DS1 (5) likes pink and jewellery.

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme · 11/06/2013 20:36

Ha ha wrong thread. Epic fail. Grin

chocoluvva · 11/06/2013 20:34

Almost everything about football - it's acceptable to cheat, be violent, abusive, foul-mouthed, racist and to complain when the offending behaviour is dealt with - even though the 'punishments' are usually piffling.

The media coverage ignores women's football and is excessive anyway - does anyone actually need to see the crowd for an hour before the match and discuss it for an hour after?

It's a man's right to behave like a hooligan on match days. Apparently - boys will be boys, eh?

Blistory · 11/06/2013 20:34

My van insurance - just renewed recently by phone - comes in post addressed to Mr Blistory. Ain't no such person.

Phoned up - their system only does vans and commercial vehicles and therefore defaults to Mr. Because apparently most women don't drive vans. I suspect most men don't either. It's not difficult to change the box but apparently I must have an easy life if things like that rile me.

No, it's the cumulation of things like that that rile me and add to the view that women are 'other' and somehow lesser than a man.

Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme · 11/06/2013 20:33

People turning their cars around in my driveway annoy me. There's a pull in opposite my house. People pull in, back up my drive and them drive off.

And then people park in the pull in. So people practically drive down my driveway to turn round.

Fuck off people! It's my land! It's a gravel track. How the fuck does it look like a road?

I know it's not hurting me but for some reason I find it reeeaaally annoying.

StealthPolarBear · 11/06/2013 20:33

That my in laws talk about the "man next door who is selling his house". I feigned ignorance and expressed surprise that one man would live in such a big house on his own, at which point I was told he has a wife and family. Not sure what is happening to her half of the house exactly Confused

MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 11/06/2013 20:28

Really?! The system doesn't actually allow 'Ms'?

How bizarre.

That would annoy me. The 'lady' thing and the way it's meant to be flattering annoys me too. I don't get how it is flattering? Confused

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 11/06/2013 20:24

It's funny, like LeGavrOrf I'm not crazy about being called a lady also because in my head I'm about 23 but I find myself warming to laydee. Grin Maybe in an ironic way...

I have to carry out a lot of DBS (formerly CRB) checks at work and the system does not recognise 'Ms.' as an allowable title for a woman who has not been married before. If you put in Ms. at the top of the form, it insists that you have to add a previous surname. Bugs the shit out of me.

superbagpuss · 11/06/2013 20:22

my mum complains to me if my house looks a mess

I have a sah husband and a cleaner

SingingSilver · 11/06/2013 20:21

bigkids I don't understand the 'grow some balls' phrase either.

I once accidentally flicked my ex in the balls, and I mean flicked, if I'd flicked the back of his head with the same force he may not even have felt it, and he was on the floor for ages. It really surprised me that he was temporarily incapacitated by something so minor. How do they cope with an actual kick to the balls? Confused

jinglebitch · 11/06/2013 20:19

When groups of children are fussing or chatting they get told off for having a "mothers' meeting", and boys are told to "stop whining like a girl"- (am a teacher)

My mum and dad have been known to bring my dad's home brew beer with them when coming for lunch, so 'the boys can have a drink'. It drives me to distraction.

Thank you for this outlet- am sure I shall think of more!

LeGavrOrf · 11/06/2013 20:19

That is bloody funny that about the loos at radfems. Grin

I agree about the armrests on trains. That is so annoying.

FriskyHenderson · 11/06/2013 20:16

'Walks like Rhianna' playing on every radio station. She can't sing, she's can't dance, but who cares she is wearing very few clothes walks like Rhianna - argh Hmm

MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 11/06/2013 20:14

I do slightly want to start a quiet feminist revolution against that one. Shall we perhaps start sitting with wide legs, or at least colonizing the arm rest?

It really irritates me how many men just automatically take up the arm rest. Trivial, I know, but annoying.

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bisley · 11/06/2013 20:13

JacquesiePeacock - I've never used the phrase 'good girl' for my dds. Not necessarily from a gender point of view, more because I prefer to say 'well done' or 'that's clever' or 'great colouring in' or somesuch.

SingingSilver · 11/06/2013 20:12

An electrician I had called to do some work at my house came to look over what needed doing, then came down and had a conversation about it - with a male friend of mine who had called in and who was nothing to do with it! I pointed out that my friend didn't live at my address, and the electrician rolled his eyes at him - I have no idea what he was tryign to communicate! Needless to say I went elsewhere in the end.

Oh, and another time my boiler was acting up, sometimes the 'water heater' button on the panel would work, sometimes it wouldn't. When it got too tempermental I switched it off and called someone. He was upstairs for two minutes, then left calling over his shoulder 'You just 'adn't turned it on love!' I'm sure he loved telling his mates about the bimbo who called him out to switch the water heater on, which I suppose is why he wasn't going to hang around to get a possible explanation. Idiot!

TheCrackFox · 11/06/2013 20:11

I hate the way a lot of men sit on public transport - apparently their genitals are so massive that they have to spread their legs miles apart meaning I lose a third of my seat. Bloody rude.

bigkidsdidit · 11/06/2013 20:03

like the 'man up' above I hate that people on here use 'grow a pair' so often. Implying one has to become a man to be brave. Although I suppose they could be referring to ovaries Grin

NeverendingStoryteller · 11/06/2013 20:02

I hate the assumption that it's my job to sort out gifts and cards and to remember birthdays and anniversaries, etc. Oh, and hate being the only one to book hair cuts and other appointments for DS.

We just moved house and all the electric bills were addressed Mr Neverending. I threw them out. DH and I have different names, so there was no Mr Neverending at that address. Eventually, I phoned the company and complained, telling them that they risked a lengthy and ridiculous debt recovery process as a result of assuming that a man paid the bills in our house. Whatever happened to the gender-neutral approach of 'new occupant' or 'householder'?

Blistory · 11/06/2013 20:01

Poor Lionel - there was him hoping that we were once, twice, three times a lady and you go and spoil it all.

And then there's John whose jealousy isn't his fault and it's okay because he didn't mean to hurt me or make me cry, it's just that he's a jealous guy.

Feminism has ruined so many songs for me that I used to naively sing along to.

grimbletart · 11/06/2013 19:58

When I used to commute by train I would notice how the man would drive himself to the station, then his wife would get out of the passenger seat, walk round and drive the car off. In the evening the women would drive up to the station and when the husband came to the car she would go round to the passenger side and he would get in and drive. WTAF is that all about?

JacqueslePeacock · 11/06/2013 19:55

This really is a first world problem. It's not something that makes me angry, but it is something that's been bothering me:

Why are there no common non-gendered expressions equivalent to "good boy" or "good girl" for small children? I don't always want to draw attention to the maleness of my toddler every single time I praise him, but "good child" sounds ridiculous. When he was smaller, I used "clever baby!" etc, but now I can't think how to phrase it without "boy". I don't think I could say "clever toddler!" or I would get funny looks.

Similarly, when I'm encouraging him to do something more grown up (use an open cup rather than a sippy cup, say), I end up saying things like "you?re using a big boy's cup, well done". It's not a big boy's cup, it's a big CHILD's cup, but that sounds all wrong. I'm concerned i'm giving the impression that all these growing up activities are explicitly for boys, or that I'm reinforcing his gendered identity in conversation all the time, but I can't seem to find a better way to phrase it.

Can you tell I've been over-thinking this?!

superbagpuss · 11/06/2013 19:55

I hate the cars/driving thing
I love cars and bikes and men talk down to me about them.

and I love to drive, just because I have a practical car doesn't mean its not the fast exciting OK he in the range

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