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Small things that make you angry and you feel you can't mention elsewhere

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MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 11/06/2013 17:08

I was thinking that maybe we need one of those threads that reminds us we all have much more in common with each other, than any of us does with the misogynistic bigots. Smile

I don't know what the feministy equivalent of 'first world problem' is, but I bet there are loads of things you've been itching to point out annoy you, but don't start an AIBU about, or don't moan to your colleague/DH/mates about because it feels insignificant.

Maybe we can all have a good moan here - and maybe back each other up that these things typically aren't so small and insignificant really!

I will go first. I noticed the other day how, when I'm walking down a pavement, I automatically move to the side out of the way of busy men striding along with briefcases. Even when I'm busy. Confused Why do I do that? And how come I feel rude - and do get funny looks - when I don't do that?

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Portofino · 13/06/2013 22:05

I had big meetings with Microsoft recently and was heartened that the women in the room outnumbered the blokes for once. I love the world of IT Hmm

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 13/06/2013 21:21

A colleague refered to me and his boss as 'girls' today. To a potential CLIENT.

The worst of it was i didn't say anything. Because i didn't want to make a fuss.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 13/06/2013 20:57

Porto Shock

Portofino · 13/06/2013 20:55

Well work normally trumps social in our house and we are flexible. I could get a babysitter. But normally on a brownie night I leave work early - 4pm, collect her from school at 4.45 - and drop her off for 5pm. Dh leaves work normal time ie 6pm and collects her at 6.30. I get home 5.30 and work to make up the time. I planned to have dinner ready for her and go out at 7. Now I would not get home til then....as it is not worth me driving home if I have to wait to collect dd. grr.

MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 13/06/2013 20:32

blis, it's satire.

porto, that is fucking rude of him. He should know what to say.

I am keying myself up for my mother tomorrow, who is going to go with plenty of these. She will inevitably start out by asking me if my husband 'minds' that my hair is short, and will tell me (as if it's totally non-subjective) that it looks 'better long'. Hmm

She would not dream of telling DH his hair looks daft long or asking me if I 'mind' he has a beard.

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Helpyourself · 13/06/2013 20:28

Email from colleague:
Hi Girls.
Sad and Angry

tootsietoo · 13/06/2013 20:06

He's not going is he Portofino? Your thing was in the diary first! Or else he organises a babysitter (this is not necessarily how things work in our house, it's just how it should work!).

And yes to the swearing at work thing! It happens a lot less now, perhaps because I'm wrinkly and have a couple of children so people assume I've used a few swear words in my time, but when I was younger I used to get that a lot - men apologising to me for swearing. Fuck off mate!

Blistory · 13/06/2013 20:04

Am I the only one who read that link and thought what a load of tosh ?

The only thing missing was the tagline that feminism is about choice.

rosabud · 13/06/2013 19:54

Like button scone !

Portofino · 13/06/2013 19:49

We both work ft by the way.

Portofino · 13/06/2013 19:46

Dh had a team/working dinner to go to tonight. It was in the diary. No problem. He came home instead. When I asked he said it had been postponed a couple of weeks. He never mentioned this previously but now it apparently falls on a night where I have organised something - food with a big group of friends. I pointed this out. His comment? "I don't know what to say." This has given me the rage, as it a night where he normally collects dd from brownies, so this involves me changing my routine even if I wasn't planning to go out. And what pisses me off the most is that he gives it no thought whatsoever.

Brugmansia · 13/06/2013 19:42

The food thing really annoys me. I remember a few years ago hearing about some restaurant that did a his and hers valentines menu - fish for the woman and steak for the man. It made me so mad.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 13/06/2013 19:32

LOVE IT Scone

burberryqueen · 13/06/2013 19:27

working women being referred to as 'career girls'.
sad old loser men telling you they just haven't met a 'good woman' and that is why they have so many problems.
'male nurses'.

Nessalina · 13/06/2013 19:22

Ha! Scone, that needs a 'like' button Smile

SconeRhymesWithGone · 13/06/2013 18:49

"Feminism is about choice"

No it isn't, feminism is about women having equal rights to men. Consumerism is about choice.

I have been waiting for an opportunity to post this:

From the Onion Wink

rosabud · 13/06/2013 18:02

Having to wear make up to work. I don't wear make up very often at all out of work, I think of it as "special occasion" - weddings, Christmas parties etc but there is an unwritten code at work that says make up is part of "smart business dress." Why?? Why do women have to change their faces to appear smart?

skrumle · 13/06/2013 17:42

lady role-clearly-viewed-as-male, e.g. lady doctor, lady driver

drives me mad - make my skin itch when used about me.

UptoapointLordCopper · 13/06/2013 13:51

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet but there's an advert on the radio that really gets my goat - some dental implant place, with some woman saying how they had one satisfied customer who was proposed to by her boyfriend after some dental work because "otherwise someone else will snap you up now that you look so good". It gives me the rage.

As an aside it came on yesterday when I was in the car with kids. I turned it off and DS1 asked why. So I told him about person becoming vastly more popular when he/she (not gender-specific in my language) became better looking. He rolled his eyes. Grin

AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom · 13/06/2013 12:44

We did the allocated days thing when we both worked, it worked quite well.

HazleNutt · 13/06/2013 12:21

Just heard that FIL had been very pleased to hear that our DC1 (not born yet) and his first grandchild is a boy. His comment had been "Ah! A heir!".
So if it was a girl, he'd leave his stuff to the dog shelter or something? Hmm

BlingLoving · 13/06/2013 11:57

Glitzpig that?s not ok. I?d definitely do a couple of spontaneous nights out after work if I were you.

I know a few couples where each parent gets two default days ie days that he/she is expected to definitely be home in time for bath and bed. On your default day you can?t work late or make plans etc without specific permission from the other. On your non default day, if you have to work a bit later or go for a last minute drink, that?s broadly okay. Seems to work quite well. DH is SAHD but I have set days that I am definitely home promptly to do bath and bed. On other days, if I don?t have a specific plan already agreed, if I land up being a bit late, that?s fine. But I generally try not to. Similarly, if something comes up last minute that DH wants to do, he?ll text me and ask if I can get home promptly so he can zip out.

BlingLoving · 13/06/2013 11:54

Well, I?m clearly a bolshy old bra-burning feminist because most of the examples on here don?t seem too minor to me and when they happen I?m likely to say something or at the very least roll my eyes! Grin

I had never thought about the food one though, and that?s very interesting. DH is a vegetarian and almost never eats wheat. So when we?re out at somewhere like pizza express, he?ll almost always order a salad while I?m tucking into a salami-laden pizza with DS. The waiters do tend to start giving me the salad and DH the pizza but I have always felt slightly embarrassed ? like I?m the big fat woman eating inappropriately. I hadn?t even realised there is a gender stereotype going on there. Arrgh, and I thought I was on top of all these little things.

GlitzPig · 13/06/2013 11:45

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