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Small things that make you angry and you feel you can't mention elsewhere

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MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik · 11/06/2013 17:08

I was thinking that maybe we need one of those threads that reminds us we all have much more in common with each other, than any of us does with the misogynistic bigots. Smile

I don't know what the feministy equivalent of 'first world problem' is, but I bet there are loads of things you've been itching to point out annoy you, but don't start an AIBU about, or don't moan to your colleague/DH/mates about because it feels insignificant.

Maybe we can all have a good moan here - and maybe back each other up that these things typically aren't so small and insignificant really!

I will go first. I noticed the other day how, when I'm walking down a pavement, I automatically move to the side out of the way of busy men striding along with briefcases. Even when I'm busy. Confused Why do I do that? And how come I feel rude - and do get funny looks - when I don't do that?

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scallopsrgreat · 19/06/2013 20:48

Ha yes Doctrine. Good one! I'll never remember it though

Oh god that poor woman you were mistaken for PQW. You work in academia don't you. I work at an academic institution too. We get academics forgetting who they are speaking to too i.e. a fellow human being

PromQueenWithin · 19/06/2013 19:52

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ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 19/06/2013 19:47

A glass of fake champagne
Mini manicure/pedicure and nail paint
Hair styled and a choice of clip in hair braid
Mini facial/hand massage
Ear piercing also included (but clip ons and stick ons will be available
for children who don't want this)
Then at the end there's a little catwalk/fashion show

Can I add being called a snob for thinking the above is a disgusting idea for a 5 year old's birthday? I really should stay off the rest of Mumsnet.

rosabud · 19/06/2013 19:34

Can I add something that happened to me today?

I work part-time and pick my children up 2 days a week from school, the other days they are collected by a child-minder. Today was sports day and co-incided with my afternoon off. At home-time, teacher asked to see me to discuss something about my son. As I sat down she said,

"I know you work so thought I'd find you today." To me if felt like she was saying, "I know you're an uncomitted, careless mother who is never around for her children so I have made a point of forcing you to come and see me now."

Whether or not she meant this, my point is that she would not have used that opening line with a male parent.

I might be being over-sensitive but it really irked me.

TheDoctrineOfAllan · 19/06/2013 19:27

"It just has. You spoke to me. Inanely."

scallopsrgreat · 19/06/2013 18:37

I got told once by an arse on FB that most FGM was just like a pin prick Hmm He quickly became an ex-friend.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but one of those small things that can really ruin your day is "Smile, it might never happen" and other variants. Fuck the fuck off. It can give me the rage for several days hours. For me it epitomises the patriarchy. That sense of entitlement that it is OK to encroach on a woman's private space and make her give her attention to the man in the vicinity.

There is also just no adequate retort either Angry

grimbletart · 19/06/2013 17:59

Yes that equating male circumcision with FGM gets me all stabby too - not saying male circumcision is right (it's all about consent) so both are equally wrong without consent IMO. But physiologically there is a world of difference and equating the two procedures shows a massive knowledge fail.

grimbletart · 19/06/2013 17:57

S'ok Monday - I didn't know that either Blush. Can't think it applies to motor bikes though or to name tapes on windscreens. Grin

ILovePonyo · 19/06/2013 15:59

quangle I've seen many a fb page suggesting that fgm and male circumcision are the same thing Angry

Quangle · 19/06/2013 15:57

yep idiots hijacking conversations about FGM to talk about men's rights. Unbearable.

Also this sort of thing:

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/scooters-on-the-school-run-are-blamed-for-rise-in-child-injuries-8662981.html

You only need to read the first sentence. Mothers are literally to blame for everything from obesity to road accidents.

MondayMorningGreens · 19/06/2013 15:57

^ Sorry, gimble my last post made me sound like a right pedantic cunt, which I'm not.

MondayMorningGreens · 19/06/2013 15:56

gimble with a tandem, the lighter person has to go at the back so since most women are lighter than most blokes, the woman would usually go on the back.

We bought a tandem a couple of years ago. I got very stabby and angry when the bloke in the shop assumed I'd be on the back.

I was vair vair Blush when he explained the weight thing.

ILovePonyo · 19/06/2013 15:46

Marking my place, and adding this as I have just seen it and it pissed me off -

seeing a 'friend' on dreaded facebook has liked a photo entitled 'domestic violence happens to men too' then reading one of the comments on said photo - "if some cunt attacked me I'd punch the shit out of her" (or similar). FFS!

I don't respond to things like that because I don't want to get into internet arguments with idiots I don't know, but it has made me angry. So many places I could start with how wrong it is - both the comment and the dv happening to men! Will come back and read thread later :)

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 19/06/2013 15:26

so on edge

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 19/06/2013 15:26

well you've inspired me grimble thank you Grin I'm sure dh doesn't see it as a feminist issue he just can't get his head round me driving after so long. the problem is he puts me sick in edge I start making stupid mistakes. I'm fine when he's not in the car as I tell him. Angry

grimbletart · 19/06/2013 14:38

That was me ThirdTimes! In 12 years of commuting I had seen it so often - I would guess 90% of times - that I wanted to go up and shout at the woman "are you a woman or a mouse?".. Of course I never did - mousey me Grin. Well done you.

On a similar note.l..how often when you see those cars with name strips over the top of the windscreen do you see the woman's name over the driver's and the man's over the passenger's. As rare as a snowball in the Sahara. And how often on a motorbike do you see a man on the pillion? And how often when you see a tandem bike do you see a bloke on the back seat (unless it's two blokes of course)?

spottybanana · 19/06/2013 14:03

Well, at the moment it's the Holly Willoughby web chat pre-comments that are making me Angry - anyone else on that?

YoungBritishPissArtist · 19/06/2013 13:59

Your hair looks great, sashh

ThirdTimes Yes, I think you should put your foot down, especially if your young son has picked up on it.

Why shouldn't you drive at least 50% of the time? Maybe you could show him this thread Grin

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 19/06/2013 12:38

someone on fwr (this thread I think) mentioned the woman picking dh up and swapping sides phenomenon. We do that!
I got my driving license last year after 9 years together and dh who is the world's shittest backseat driver scares me while I drive he starts instructing me it doing that thing where he pumps his imaginary break.

we argue so much I worry about having an accident but he really can't shut his bloody mouth.

yesterday with this thread in mind I stayed in the drivers seat and 2year old DD told me to switch stats in to my seat Sad

don't want her thinking men can't be seen in the passenger seat. Dh is going to have to learn to hold his tongue.

sashh · 19/06/2013 08:26

ShinyPenny

Check out my hair when short on the profile. Really easy, wash and wear - the pic is just after the hairdresser but it looked the same with no 'jushing'.

YoungBritishPissArtist · 19/06/2013 08:10

This thread has inspired me to change from Miss to Ms with my bank, I'm due a new debit card soon :)

I get the food thing a lot. Went for dinner with my brother, he ordered salad, me burger and chips - guess who got the salad?

As for name changing, I like this post on Shakesville.

MrsMangoBiscuit · 19/06/2013 07:35

Onetwo34, you've just reminded me of a christmas party I went to as a child. They gave out presents at the end, transformers sets for the boys, and barbie writing sets for the girls. I was overjoyed when I got a transformers set! The mother of the little boy who'd also gotten the wrong present came over to try to swap, and I can remember my DM sticking up for me, so I didn't have to. I loved those toys! (and my DM!)

Onetwo34 · 19/06/2013 07:21

Yesterday, sets of farm stickers being passed round for DC at the end of after school club.
The organiser stops to make sure that the mums of girls are taking the ones with a little girl portrayed doing things (which there seemed to be a lot of) otherwise there wouldn't be enough sets for the boys, who got farm vehicle stickers, or animal stickers, or a little boy doing things.

Because heaven forbid a small boy would have his fun with stickers contaminated by a picture of a girl. Confused

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 18/06/2013 19:45

yeah doctrine, government seems to be masculine for some reason.

ThirdTimesABrokenFanjo · 18/06/2013 19:44

I think if it happens again, "did you mean to be so rude" might be appropriate Wink Grin