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Still upset..."I hate feminists"

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Youcanringmybell · 26/05/2013 11:41

I visited some distant family a week ago. We were having a pleasant meal when one of the guys comments on the education system failing young men ( i have just started working in Education).

I agreed that this does seem to be the case. He then said "That is why I hate feminists". My mouth fell open.
He launched into a tirade of vitriol against how all feminists are like Harriet Harman, they we all want men 'bred out' and that because men pay the most taxes and women need maternity leave, feminists are basically the downfall of Britain today.

I consider myself a feminist. I told him this. I also told him that in MY limited experience feminists did NOT believe in Eugenics and the control of male births and infanticide (as he implied). That mosts feminists just want not to be assaulted verbally about the size of their tits, given less pay for the same jobs and not to open a newspaper and and see yet more breasts.

This man is friendly, intelligent and works in a caring profession.
Without a mentality like his we wouldn't need a feminist movement. I wish I knew more and then could have argued his points.

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Moominsarehippos · 26/05/2013 16:03

Girls have been 'doing better' in education for ages.

He's just one step away from blaming bloomin' forriners for doing better that white WC lads.

arsenaltilidie · 26/05/2013 15:58

Is the education system failing boys or are girls doing better?
I feel its the latter.
Blaming feminist for boys failing is like blaming your wife for earning less.
Its just excuses.

Moominsarehippos · 26/05/2013 15:44

When my sister got her first mortgage when she got married, her income wasn't taken into consideration (it was in the 1970s). I believe that this was the norm.

So he wouldn't take paternity leave then? Or 'let' his wife work, vote, wear trousers, ride a bike... Oh sorry, that's the Taliban.

Silly boy.

HullMum · 26/05/2013 15:35

well I suppose he may be the proof that education is failing men. If women who care that women should have equality are feminist he must hate a lot of women. tiresome little MRA. Did you comment that you don't hate men despite the fact they treated women as inferior since time pretty much began? Women were not allowed to vote in my great grand mothers lifetime. Women were not allowed certain jobs in my grandmother and mothers lifetime women were allowed to be raped in marriage in my lifetime and my 2 year old daughter has been born in to a time where women are being denied abortion when their lives depend on it, or in my country being prosecuted fot having miscarriages or still born children. Don't we have a better excuse to hate men, then they have to hate feminist?

LeStewpot · 26/05/2013 12:11

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Sunnywithshowers · 26/05/2013 11:57

My stepmother is the same - she feels feminism is divisive and women should be 'feminine', whatever that means. I wear trousers, have short hair and am a feminist - we don't get on very well.