How can any woman NOT support the No More Page 3 campaign?!

I really, really, really need to hide this section, it's a constant bloody wind up

I don't believe that agreeing with Page 3 IS a valid opinion though

What???????

Who on earth do you think you are to decide what is and what isn't a valid opinion? It's an opinion and people are allowed the think what the hell they like.

What does the campaign aim to do? I'd never defend page 3 but I'm not in favour of censorship. If the campaign is just about spreading the message of how damaging etc it is, then fine.

And frankly, even if you DO want to defend page 3, you can't object to people spreading a different message about it.

I don't want to see that sort of thing so I don't buy the papers that have that sort of thing.... I'd prefer a world without the objectifying of women, and yes I think it is all becoming "normal" to some folks - but then art through the ages has always celebrated the nude female form.

I just can't get all riled up about folks seeing boobs in a newspaper when it IS such a small part of the bigger picture - the men's "interest" magazines - even the women's ones - the billboards, the TV ads, - the latter 2 being things we can't avoid in the same way as not buying a paper... I'm sure they love the fact there is a "no more page 3" campaign diverting the main focus away from them....

But please stop trying to make out other people's opinion is not valid just because it differs - the hectoring, badgering, bullying stance on these issues is what turns many of us women away from the feminist boards....

Because, whilst I think page 3 is disgusting and objectifying, I respect any adult woman's right to, within certain parameters, do what they want and not what a man (most MPs, judges, lawyers etc, who would write and enforce this law, are men) tell them they can't do with their own bodies.

I think the answer is a combination of letting it die out and trying to ensure women don't want to do page 3. Maybe something like disallowing or capping payment for page 3....

Because if you say you disapprove of it you run the risk of looking jealous or like a prudish nag. Completely unfounded, childish accusations but insulting all the same and I can understand why many women don't want to come across that way to men (and other women).

I suppose it does seem like a minor issue compared to the economy/terrorism etc. but it is part of a much, much bigger issue that is so tempting to just close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears, rather than stand up to.

How can any woman NOT support the No More Page 3 campaign?!

Well, I suppose the women who appear on it wouldn't support the campaign. Other than them, no, I don't understand it either. Although I wouldn't want to see it banned as such, I would like to just see it die out.

Don't buy the Sun, that's the answer.

for avoidance of doubt I would prefer a world without p 3 and have never heard a good reason for having it

I just think it is ok for other people to feel differently

Because it seems a really petty thing to bother about..

There are far more important things

And because banning page 3 reinforces the idea that nudity and breasts are wrong.

I know the feminist argument is pg. 3 is the objectification of women, but it doesn't bother me anything like as much as women dressed in micro mini skirts and sky high heels at a trade show do.

It's so depressing isnt' it OP? I have no idea how any woman or decent man could defend Page 3 either.

It drives me crackers when people say there are more important things to worry about. Well that's true for virtually every situation you care to mention! Doesn't mean you shouldn't 'worry' about it if it bugs you.

The one that really makes me boil over is when people who are anti-gay marriage say that 'the government have more important things to think about, like the economy'. I'm sorry for shouting but THEY ARE THE BLOODY GOVERNMENT! If they can't deal with more than one issue at a time, we are all totally even more screwed

well, what feels nicer - the facts as you see them or 'no really what's the problem?'

I can't really get cross at people for opting not to have their consciousness raised because you know it's really fucking depressing once you start

um because people even women people (if you can say women are people?) are allowed to think what they like?

am not really a fan of censorship although I was that p3 was still around