Radfem 2013 and the MRAs

What TunipTheVegedude said.
The shutting down of discussion is a worrying trend. and the fact that personal threats are allowed to stand (as referenced in that article linked to earlier) is scary.

Usual bollocks talked about Cathy Brennan, I see. Cathy has outed transpeople who have threatened her. I think this is fair enough tbh.

I would like to know what they mean by 'RadFem'. That the conference organisers said things as part of the their official conference literature? That some people calling themselves radical feminists said things elsewhere on the internet?

In any case, I think the situation we are moving towards where you are automatically a bigot if you do not believe transwomen are women, and are not allowed to say so, is a worrying one. There needs to be freedom of conscience on this. Enforcing a particular theoretical position on the nature of gender as the only one allowed is both oppressive and academically ridiculous.

Perhaps all is not as it appears to be. For those interested, there is a link within this tweet which includes screen shots and information on the issue from behind The Times paywall.

Best wishes.

Darn, I was just getting into the Icelandic theme.

Seriously, though, what an bizarre idea, that the Irish centre isn't good enough because Irish women are oppressed - so what, we should all bury our heads in the sand?

I'm afraid I stopped reading the link halfway through, which is wussy, but it is horrible. It bothers me, too, nicetabard. I can't imagine what it's like being that woman who's had to hear it all directed at her.

I'm really looking forward to the conference, wherever it happens.

That stuff is just scary. It really bothers me TBH. And it works. I imagine there are a lot of women who don't put themselves out there as they are not prepared to receive this sort of attention / are scared of the threats.

Just to bring us back down to earth, here's a rather depressing article about what MRAs are actually like here

Oh yes, it would look lovely over our dungarees!

And wear those sweaters

Or one of these

We could re-create Borgen...

And do traditional Scandinavian things

Like

I take it back. It's not as straightforward as I thought it might be. I can only find a couple of possible venues;

texture-restaurant.co.uk/ - the chef is Icelandic,

or

www.iceland.co.uk/ - hire one of their stores and gorge on frozen vol-au-vents.

Wherever you end up, I hope you have fun

Maybe he can get us a discount on the pickled herring and rye bread

Have you got contacts at smorgasbord establishments in London NMC?

I'm sure rad fems would be glad to know about it.

Haven't seen you either NMC.

I've missed you.

Apologies NiceT, I misunderstood.

No, no, it was in response to OMC.

This is a thread about violent woman-hating men wanting to ensure women don't meet together, and some bloke comes on and demands women account for their venue decisions.

Well, actually those are good points. What about using a place with links to more 'female friendly' societies, such as the Scandinavian or Icelandic countries?

And hi, Basil. Haven't seen you since your 'Porn sick men/babygro' thread.

In that, it appears to have literally not occurred to the man in the blog that there are Irish people who are radical feminists.

Which makes him a bit closed-minded, in my book.

Was that in response to me?

I wasn't responding to your post, I was responding to the OP.

The "man in the blog" I mention is the man in the blog in the OP.

Oh please.

I suppose we should boycott any American venue as well, because of the introduction of trans-vaginal scans and the attempts to abolish safe, legal abortions.

And British ones because 72% of government cuts fall on women.

I've got an idea. Why don't rad fems choose their conference venue without reference to what hostile men think?

How bout running with that?

So I should not mention the issue? It has nothing to do with the nationality of the participants, but the issues are linked whether you like it or not.

Her case has been a massive point of discussion on here and yet I could not see that anyone else has raised this point. I am sorry if the fact that a man mentioned it has upset you.

It does not seem to have occurred to the man posting that blog that there are, in fact, radical feminists who are also (shocker) Irish.

Seems like an odd sort of an oversight.

Wouldn't feminists be uneasy about using an Irish cultural centre, given what happened to Savita Halappanavar in Ireland recently? Her death is inextricably linked with the culture of Ireland.