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Guardian article on sex workers and disabled people

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fllowtheyellowbrickroad · 11/04/2013 21:43

m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/10/sex-workers-disabled-people

Has this already been done? Will put together something literate soon. An currently choking and splitting too much.

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Leithlurker · 12/04/2013 01:14

In that case tabard you are not bothering to look at the views and experiences of the people you wish to pontificate about. Your assertions about rights not being rights are just that assertions. You would have read that indeed many people seem to want to define what the right of people with impairements are, few however have to suffer the consequences of having their right to a full and meaningful life denied them.

Must be nice to live in a world where you can take your own freedom of action for granted. Not worry about bullying or ridicule, never thinking that your not a full human being, always being able to get a shag even a pity shag if you want one, or even just to have someone hold you for a reason that has nothing to do with your inability to function.

The right is not about sex it is about being human, having sex is part of being human.

NiceTabard · 12/04/2013 01:01

Yeah I clicked the first link and didn't get past the opening line

"Sexual activity, stimulation and gratification should be just as much a right for disabled people as it is for anyone else."

Those things are not a right for anyone. I can't start to look into an argument which starts with these things as a right. They are not rights.

Leithlurker · 12/04/2013 00:43

Another good article that opens up the complex area of sex for people with impairments, this time if a debate about "entitlement" to sex, and to use sexworkers is going to be had, I suggest it would benefit from thinking about the whole issue as outlined in these two articles, both written by women incidentally.
www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/sex-some-facts-life

Leithlurker · 12/04/2013 00:25

Perhaps some reading other than the guardian article will help people, it also addresses the "Disabled women do not pay for sex" trope.

www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/sex-rights-disability-and-some-ticklish-questions

YonirockandrollbutIlikeit · 11/04/2013 22:33

I agree. It makes me very uncomfortable.

NiceTabard · 11/04/2013 22:28

I agree with lala.

The idea that disabled people are not "fuckable" apart from by people paid to do it is downright offensive.

Sex is also not a right. Plenty of non-disabled people can't get any and don't use prostitutes.

There was an article about this a couple of years back and it was all about disabled men and female prostitutes. So perpetuating unhealthy ideas about men and women and sex. I have yet to see a piece where parents of a disabled young woman talk in a positive and keen way about paying men to fuck her.

The whole thing just stinks.

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa · 11/04/2013 22:05

It's been around for a while and I truly hate this idea.

It fuels the myth that disabled people cannot find consenting lovers.

It promotes the sex industry and the idea that buying womens bodies to wank into is fine (the article says even disabled women go to female sex workers).

It promotes the idea that sex is more important than decency (i.e. not paying for the use of orifices).

And it begs the questions of where you stop; if sex is such a necessity/human right, what about those who are incarcerated/ unpleasant/ rude i.e just don't have access to a willing partner? Do they get to buy humans for use of their sex organs too?

The people who use the TLC-Trust to gain experience and lose their virginity may also struggle to find subsequent partners who are happy that they once used sex workers.

Verycold · 11/04/2013 21:55

What is your issue with it?