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blackcurrantjan · 25/03/2013 15:08

Hi all, it's my first time posting in this section and I'm not sure if I'm overeacting about this. This morning on 'This Morning' there was a woman on talking about having a very difficut birth which contibuted to her having pnd. The whole focus of the story was centred on how she didn't feel like having sex for fourteen months afterwards and how hard this would have been on her DH.

I understand that it was a relevant part of the story, but instead of focusing on how the lack of intimacy affected their relationship for both of them, Ruth Langsford, who I usually like, took the slant of her 'wifely duties' being neglected. She actually said something along the lines of "After adusting to becoming a mother you have to return to being a wife again". i.e. being a wife = providing your DH with sex Hmm And "Did you worry he would start to look elsewhere?". The women then went on to say that after having her second dc she lost control of her bladder meaning she leaked urine constantly before having operation to correct it. Ruth again brought up the point of 'no sex' saying, "Your DH probably thought "here we go again!" in a roll your eyes kind of manner. I felt more appropriate questions would have been "Is this a common probem?, hw did you manage; pads etc? It must have been hard for your DH to see you suffer like this ?"

I suffered from PND myself and I can only imagine how difficult it would be care for a new baby while having no control over your bladder, it made me really mad that the whole conversation focused around her poor DH not being able to have sex with her. Would love to here your thoughts on this... maybe I am looking too much into it but it scares me to think if I hadn't been reading the F/WR boards I may not have even noticed what a strange angle the story was being told from. (apologies for enormous post)

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 25/03/2013 18:18

Sounds crap. Also sounds like the usual "women are gatekeepers" bullshit - my DH wouldn't want to have sex with me if I felt too ill for sex, and if I felt too ill for sex, I'd be pretty glum about missing out on sex - vice versa if DH was the ill one. It's like we're both compassionate human beings who love each other, or something.

blackcurrantjan · 25/03/2013 17:43

No they did not ask about her husband supporting her at all. The particular problems this woman had were not specifically described as commom problems or even problems at all. The were more viewed as reasons behind the major common problem of not being able to have sex after giving birth. Confused They refered to surveys which said the average was four months which Ruth said seemed like a long time. It makes me sad to think that not only is there pressure on women to loose there "baby weight" as quick as possible but now they are also encouraged to start having sex again as soon as possible, not because they want to but to make sure their DHs dont get bored and look elsewhere Hmm

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Darkesteyes · 25/03/2013 17:20

I saw a tweet from a fellow feminist last week that said they did a slot asking whether its a womans fault if her husband cheats Confused

I will bet a penny to a pinch of shit though that if they were talking about wives who are cheating they wouldnt be blaming the husbands though.

On their programme the wives would be copping the blame in both situations.

DaffodilAdams · 25/03/2013 15:47

Yes the focus is always on women's behaviour not men's (bad) behaviour.

Did they not even raise that the problems this woman had are pretty common for pregnancy and giving birth? It can damage your body and lead to lifelong problems. Why isn't that being highlighted more?

KoalaFace · 25/03/2013 15:43

And you know what else? I'm sick of the amount of women who are constantly taking up the 'fight' for men. Seen it constantly lately.

"So many women falsely accuse men of rape. I think rape is much rarer than some women would have you believe." - from idiot woman caller on radio who thinks the Jimmy Saville information has a load of "opportunistic" women coming out of the woodwork. Aaaagh!

"Well if she isn't having sex with her husband as often as he'd like, of course he'll get it elsewhere." - from distant relative about her BIL who had an affair.

I think they believe it makes them appealing to men. "Look how cool and understanding of men I am!" Confused

DaffodilAdams · 25/03/2013 15:37

I didn't see it either but this smacks of "Women suck it up. Your job is to provide support and service your husband, not receive support and have real problems/needs"

Did they ask how much support her husband had given her because there is certainly a correlation between PND and lack of support.

EduCated · 25/03/2013 15:34

I don't know what has happened to This Morning. It's turned into a steaming pile of misogynistic, sensationalist shite Sad

Thisisaeuphemism · 25/03/2013 15:27

This Morning brings me out in a rage and I can no longer watch it. This would have annoyed me too. - "Poor Dh" is their angle on most things.

KoalaFace · 25/03/2013 15:16

I didn't see it but I don't like the sound of it. At all.

Doesn't sound helpful, supportive or particularly informative.

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