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Really proud of my 17 year old daughter

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NicholasTeakozy · 25/03/2013 14:15

She posted a staus on Facebook which read:-

Seen a few status' tonight that have kind of annoyed me. I don't consider myself a feminist, but with issues like this I am. Why are women's bodies over-sexualised all the time? Why can men walk around with their tops off showing off their bodies but it isn't socially acceptable for a woman to do so? Why are women deemed "disgusting" or "sluts" if they do exactly what a man does? Why is there such a taboo on our bodies but men can prance about however the fuck they wish? Nah, fuck that. Ladies, do what you like with your body (within reason). Fuck all you patriarchal cunts.

Cue two of her male friends who argued that women who dress in skimpy clothing are more likely to be harassed and sexually assaulted Hmm to which she replied it's the rapists' fault, not the women. Over the course of an hour she tore all their arguments apart and made them look stupid. She really brought a smile to my face and made me swell with pride to see such passion and anger in one so young.

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MissBeehivingUnderTheMistletoe · 25/03/2013 21:14

LordCopper - this thread is in feminism/WR. The OP's daughter may only be 17 but according to the OP her children "...have been taught to stand up for their beliefs, to question everything, to trust their own minds, to have enquiring minds" but she does not see herself as a feminist. I'm not sure that I'd be proud of that tbh.

Sunnywithshowers · 25/03/2013 21:09

Do one ramios

DaffodilAdams · 25/03/2013 21:09

I actually missed she had said cunt blind as a bat. It is a pretty patriarchal to use a part of a woman's body as an insult. So I am definitely not keen on that. But the message is fine.

Wishiwasanheiress · 25/03/2013 21:08

Oh heavens, forgot to say, op ur daughter made great arguements. Good on her! :)

Thisisaeuphemism · 25/03/2013 21:08

Fucking hell

Nicholas, can you get your daughter here ;)

ramios · 25/03/2013 21:05

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DaffodilAdams · 25/03/2013 21:04

Well clearly that isn't the case ramios. It's just in your head.

Wishiwasanheiress · 25/03/2013 21:03

Op u seem to be being hounded for something ridiculous. I think ur daughter used EXACTLY the language of her peers.

Just some prefer to think it isn't.

Bull sh.....

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Wishiwasanheiress · 25/03/2013 21:00

Dear effing Mary Martha n f-ing Jane - uve never met a mf teen that swears? Shut the F-ront door!

I really don't believe u. We swore from 12. Not in front of parents/friends parents that'd be dumb but at school hell to the mf yeah we did! Either u aren't hearing it or they are very good actors.

Mitchy1nge · 25/03/2013 21:00

what's wrong with swearing?

TeiTetua · 25/03/2013 20:56

Well, chip off the old block, isn't she. I wonder if kids swearing in public and not being lovingly corrected by their parents shows something about society in general? Part of the "sexual revolution" maybe, and as with most of that, you can see its good and bad points.

EduCated in particular, it's actually men more often than women who are required to keep their bodies covered up. I think it's interesting to consider when that happens, and when it's the reverse. And also what happens to someone who breaks those rules.

Mitchy1nge · 25/03/2013 20:45

good for you op!

NicholasTeakozy · 25/03/2013 20:41

Edu :o

I should point out that she, like her siblings, has been brought up to speak her mind. They have also been taught to stand up for their beliefs, to question everything, to trust their own minds, to have enquiring minds. And most of all, to know that on the rare occasion I ask them to rein things in that they've gone too far.

DD was reacting to her male friends who had posted statuses about how girls shouldn't go out wearing skimpy outfits then complain about harrassment. And yes, I fully back her use of bad language.

Why the fuck are you attacking my daughter for her choice of language? Surely the point is her point of view? This isn't AIBU ffs. :o

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UptoapointLordCopper · 25/03/2013 20:28

And someone said "I couldn't get past the "I don't consider myself a feminist" ". She's 17, FFS. Give her some time.

EduCated · 25/03/2013 20:19

Soz, Copper. I shall go flagellate in the corner. Breasts fully covered, obvs.

Mitchy1nge · 25/03/2013 20:16

holiday

why does it do that!

Mitchy1nge · 25/03/2013 20:15

shame some people are more interested in how your daughter expressed herself rather than what she had to say OP

but I can't stop laughing at the Extra Private Parts and 'biology' thing Grin yes, it's biology that makes us cover up in Waitrose but that we somehow heroically overcome for the beach on h

UptoapointLordCopper · 25/03/2013 19:56

namechangeguy - that was at home, hardly "public". How old is your son?

Yes EduCate, you miss one! Not the same effect, is it?

EduCated · 25/03/2013 19:28

Damn, missed one!

EduCated · 25/03/2013 19:26

'Seen a few status' tonight that have kind of annoyed me. I don't consider myself a feminist, but with issues like this I am. Why are women's bodies over-sexualised all the time? Why can men walk around with their tops off showing off their bodies but it isn't socially acceptable for a woman to do so? Why are women deemed "disgusting" or "sluts" if they do exactly what a man does? Why is there such a taboo on our bodies but men can prance about however the fuck they wish? Nah, stuff that. Ladies, do what you like with your body (within reason). Fluff all you patriarchal twits.'

For those whose sensibilities have been offended.

namechangeguy · 25/03/2013 19:21

And that was in response to LordCopper - my mistake.

namechangeguy · 25/03/2013 19:15

Doctrine - when I am with them, obviously! Grin

I walked in on my son a while back. He was playing with friends and I came home early. I entered just in time to hear 'Oh, shit!' coming out of his innocent little mouth. His face when he saw me standing there was a picture! He knows it is not acceptable. It isn't big and it isn't clever, as I reminded him.

Ashoething · 25/03/2013 19:11

I wouldn't be proud of my dd for posting something so inarticulate. I find cunt particularly horrible. There is a way to get her point across without being so crude.