I don't know why I bother.....anyone else the same?

I dont think its actually a product thats available. The way it reads to me is that they are saying it should be available with a rape cry. Still awful. Still perpetuating myths.

darkest...ignore any comeback

the guy is a cock

Hes not really a friend Went to school with him and he ended up on my fb after the school reunion 2 yrs ago. Just memorized what it said on the link. It was about the fake vagina having a realistic rape cry sound system. Vile.
Have left a comment.

Ou actually, what's prob more effective, is to ask him why. Make him bluster or repeat the rape myth straight out and then ask of he's aware that 90% of rapes aren't reported and that of those which are, only 4% are false allegations. Or you cd ask him to guess the figures.

Oh my darkesteyes. Horrible. I wouldn't want a friend like that either. Might be tempted to ask him if he realises he sounds like someone who has bought into rape myths.

Same idiot ive mentioned upthread has now shared something else about how the equivalent of a vibrator (one of those fake vaginas) should have a rape cry in its repertoire.
Final straw. Going to unfriend Fuck the possible comeback.

I wonder if its perspective? I value maternity rights for example because they were fought for improvement during my working life. I saw the before and after consequences. For those younger maybe they don't notice as so much has been won. I mean there's a flipping long way to go yet, but not as far as before maybe.

Not sure I'm explaining well but hoping u get the gist?! :/

I posted my disgust at someone "sharing" a photo of a truck with a painted tailgate, the image was of a woman bound and gagged on the flatbed of the truck and was very lifelike, it was sick and quite horrific.
I pointed out that if it were a picture of a black person then it would be an arrestable hate crime only to be told it was just a joke and they were admiring the artwork . I posted back that images of sexual violence towards women were never "a joke" and was told to "fuck off if I don't like it".

Someone else taken off my fb - This man is married and in his late 40s.

Oh, good!

LRD thanks, that really clarifies things

Thank a feminist!

www.nownys.org/thankfeminist.html

mcmooncup they may think a variety of things but for those issues that are not related to violence I've heard things like "women don't want it" or "it's just the way things are" soooo often. So not denying the statistics necessarily but denying that there is a systemic underlying cause that can and should be addressed.

lemon if you and Mr Lorry Driver had been the only people sat in a carriage on a late night train that had no stops for a long time, would you have felt quite so happy with the situation ?

I'd like them your obviously lacking in open minded, feminist Facebook friends

Yep ain't it the truth AnyFucker.

Lemonmuffin why do you feel the need to misrepresent the thread in that way?

Or perhaps I'm being unfair, perhaps you genuinely don't understand it.

lemon you haven't understood that other thread, then

you obviously gave Mr Lorry Driver non-discouraging signals

you gave him eye contact, you grinned first, you felt safe because he was bound by the change of colour of traffic lights to move off and away from you

I wouldn't have a problem with that fleeting mutual appreciation

that other thread isn't talking about that...but of course it does suit some people to tar all feminists as dour, fun-sapping man haters

"Why can people not see what I can see?"

I know how you feel OP. I turn on the TV see that one man has killed three women. Every day there is some sexual assault or DV and it always seems to go one way but no one seems to see it. People talk about gun control and public safety but no one seems to notice the thing these crimes have in common.

And now a man has stabbed a schoolgirl on a bus.
If it were one ethnic group doing this to another ethnic group at this rate they would notice.

I'm like frothy - I have lots of feminist/pro-feminist mates on facebook, though that's been quite gradual. It's funny, actually, a lot of us realized we weren't posting as feminists much because we worried about the reaction or that we were going to make people think we were 'ranty feminists', so there's definitely strength in numbers.

Something I think can be easier for newbie feminists or people for whom it's not a huge interest, is all the human interest stuff. I know when I post certain things, a few people don't care for it. But some really unexpected friends and relatives have said nice things when I've shared posts about, say, remembering the life of early women inventors or women who are often overlooked for their work in science. I can see why because I love that sort of thing too and facebook is the right medium for it.

Today I shared a post from a lovely mate of mine about international women's day and it's just gone everywhere, it's really nice to see people celebrating something positive rather than seeing feminism as negative today.

(paleo - dunno, I'm never sure what a normative feminist perspective is. I think it would vary depending who you asked. But 'radical' comes from the word for 'root', as in root cause. Rad fems are those who think the root problem is the patriarchy - as opposed to, say, marxist feminists, who - obviously - feel Marx's theories are really important too.)

in this spirit of increased communication, and apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but can i ask what would distinguish 'rad fem' perspectives from more normative feminist perspectives?

I noticed the same on FB too. I think the reason is that I don't know anybody who'd call herself/himself a feminist among my friends. Even one who's very clever and successful and even supports her husband would not call herself a feminist.
The only person in my life who I know calls herself a feminist is my stepmum, and she's 72! And not on FB :)

OP i know how you feel. I got into a massive row on a womens mag fb page last year when they kept printing derogatory articles about mums on benefits. And the bile and mysogyny spilling forth from other women was astounding.
And a guy i was at school with keeps sharing stuff from the Lad Bible so it keeps appearing on my feed. This is a 40 yr old man with a young daughter Speaking of that has anyone clocked Danny Dyers Twitter feed. I dont follow but something of his got retweeted into my timeline so i had a nosy and i wish i hadnt. Bloody vile.