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I suppose this proves that women just can't stand the heat.........

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seeker · 24/02/2013 10:23

here

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targaryen24 · 24/02/2013 11:19

YOU GET £20 A WEEK! Hmm
Hardly rolling in it. That the equivalent to one weeks worth of nappies & wipes for me. If you're going to insult a large chunk of society it wouldn't hurt to do some research first...and maybe give up the Daily Mail for lent Grin

P.S benefits are calculated to allow enough money to get by
not swan about. However that family managed it, most don't & it is not a glamorous alternative to being employed. So get off your high, poorly informed horse. Cheers

blueshoes · 24/02/2013 11:18

I sometimes wonder whether flexible working (which has become the norm in terms of the platter of HR benefits offered to professional women) has resulted in more women being sidelined that if there was not that option.

If it has the result of keeping women in work who would otherwise completely dropped out, it is good thing. But if it has the result of encouraging women to go pt who would otherwise have continued ft, then there's your answer. It also skews employers' attitudes towards women if so many of them request flexi working after children.

EduCated · 24/02/2013 11:18

Back to the original point of the thread, it's sad to see were steadily slipping backwards instead of progressing in many ways Sad

AnyFucker · 24/02/2013 11:16

Ignore the ignorant derailer

EstherRancid · 24/02/2013 11:16

Heather Frost - from another angle?

MurderOfGoths · 24/02/2013 11:14

"Childcare is still seen as the woman's problem with a lot of companies being happy to offer flexible working for mothers but not for fathers, which seems like it's woman friendly but it's placing more pressure on the women to be more responsible for the children than her partner."

This absolutely!

Schooldidi · 24/02/2013 11:12

Join this thread wasn't supposed to be about benefits was it? I'm sure it was about women being pushed out of jobs with power, or was I dreaming that?

JoinLogin · 24/02/2013 11:11

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JoinLogin · 24/02/2013 11:10

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282142/Mother-11-having-400k-taxpayer-funded-house-built-bought-flying-lessons-partner-Christmas-gift.html

Here you go. Child benefit can't be that low if claimants can buy a horse and flying lessons.

MurderOfGoths · 24/02/2013 11:10

Well that's some spectacular derailing.

Schooldidi · 24/02/2013 11:10

join shouldn't your post say 'if a couple can't afford to have a child why do they still choose to have one'?

The cost of childcare should be weighed against both salaries but all too often it's only weighed against the woman's. Why is that? Because women are frequently the lower earners in the couple. Society still expects a woman to want to stay at home while the children are little whereas a man who wants to stay at home is seen as a bit odd. Childcare is still seen as the woman's problem with a lot of companies being happy to offer flexible working for mothers but not for fathers, which seems like it's woman friendly but it's placing more pressure on the women to be more responsible for the children than her partner.

targaryen24 · 24/02/2013 11:09

It proves that things are still pretty stagnant when it comes to childcare. Plenty of women WANT to go back to work but earn so little that it seems stupid.

And join - articles like that do NOT represent a whole section of society. And yes, it is taking the piss.

MerryCouthyMows · 24/02/2013 11:09

Is that you, GabbyLogon?!

JoinLogin · 24/02/2013 11:05

There was a newspaper article a week or 2 ago about an unemployed mother with 11 children who was racking in all sorts of benefits including child support. She had so much she was able to buy and keep a horse.

Don't you think this is taking the p*ss?

blueshoes · 24/02/2013 11:02

Join, you are totally missing the point.

Women can afford to have children. Just not cover the cost of childcare to be able to afford to work during their early years.

JoinLogin · 24/02/2013 10:54

If women can't afford to have a child then why do they still choose to have one?

Having children is a choice remember.

blueshoes · 24/02/2013 10:52

Part of the reason is the crippling cost of childcare and the fixation on parents (particularly mothers) being at home during the early years of a child's life.