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So in the wake of a massive public spotlight on rape, the priority apparently is to protect the reputations of the tiny % of men falsely accused of rape

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FastidiaBlueberry · 17/02/2013 00:18

FFS FFS FFS

Is it very cynical of me to think that this new demand to enable anonymity for men accused of rape (most of whom are guilty, but get off anyway) is a psychological need to re-establish what is most important to these woman-haters?

Stop talking about the mountain of rape victims who never get justice and FGS start talking about the anthill of men who get falsely accused.

Enough of Steubenville, Delhi, Frances Andrade, Jimmy Savile's victims, the 1 in 4 women who are raped or sexually assaulted.

Let's get back to talking about the really important issues - the miniscule number of men who will be falsely accused of rape or who will be the victim of mistaken identity. Fools, don't you know they're more important than all those rape vicitms? That that's a much bigger issue? So what 25% of women are subjected to rape or sexual assault? So what if 85-90% of rape victims don't report? So what that of those who do, only 6% get a guilty verdict even though only between 2-6% are lying or mistaken? Let's get some perspective on this - men matter more than women, stop imagining they don't.

Fuming but off to bed.

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JoinLogin · 24/02/2013 10:42

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RedwingOnFire · 24/02/2013 10:37

**Or if they do that the woman is partly..

RedwingOnFire · 24/02/2013 10:36

That so many people DON'T BELIEVE accused rapists rape but that the women is partly at fault undermines all this crying oooh the worst thing ever a man can be accused of is rape.

RedwingOnFire · 24/02/2013 10:34

As if all accused rapists have their faces plastered all over the papers FFS!!

JoinLogin · 24/02/2013 10:30

@CoalDustWoman You might find this interesting. Try and look at things from both perspectives:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7265307.stm

JoinLogin · 24/02/2013 10:28

It's not the same as other crimes. If a man is wrongly accused of shoplifting for example it's very unlikely he will be murdered or end up committing suicide after his face is all over the newspapers.

CoalDustWoman · 24/02/2013 10:21

Anyone accused of any crime is in the same position. It's all in the thread, if you've read it.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 24/02/2013 10:21

Oh and it seems too obvious to say but perhaps not - many rape victims commit suicide, cannot work at their jobs etc.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 24/02/2013 10:19

Exactly the same as for other crimes, LJ.

People found guilty if false accusation of rape can be imprisoned, as can those found guilty of false accusation of any crime.

JoinLogin · 24/02/2013 10:13

@CoalDustWoman, in the UK anyone accused of rape has NO right to anonymity and has his name and face plastered all over the media before the case even goes to court. That's the problem.

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CoalDustWoman · 24/02/2013 10:12

Innocent until proven guilty is a legal status that means that the Crown must prove the case against the accused beyond reasonable doubt. It has nothing to do with a poster on MN thinking an accused is guilty.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 24/02/2013 09:45

True Opt. And frankly if she said it was an unnamed assailant to a hospital, I'm pretty sure that no man ended up falsely accused in a police report.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 24/02/2013 09:42

That's what you meant. That's not what I said.

If vigilante attacks don't happen then surely that's the outcome you want. Presumably you'd prefer people accused of murder or fraud or whatever not to be subject to vigilante attacks?

OptimisticPessimist · 24/02/2013 09:42

"An unmarried 16-year-old female had sex with her boyfriend and later became
concerned that she might be pregnant. She said she had been raped by an unknown
assailant in the hopes that the hospital would give her something to abort the
possible pregnancy. "

I'm presuming that this is an American example? If so, it says a lot more about American restrictions of abortion than it does false rape accusations. In the UK she could have accessed the healthcare she needed without having to lie.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 24/02/2013 09:34

I would happily join a campaign against vigilante attacks on those accused of any crime.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 24/02/2013 09:31

Rape has a legal definition. This is the UK's definition.

www.rapecrisis.org.uk/Definitionofrape2.php

Are you in the US? The discussion thread on which you have posted relates to UK law re anonymity.

StewieGriffinsMom · 24/02/2013 09:28

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roughtyping · 24/02/2013 09:25

But LJ - do you just ignore the 91-97% of women who weren't lying? Aren't they important?

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