Anti feminist meme.

Yes I do, I really do view that as equal! In what way is it acceptable to abuse and bully someone? How is it more acceptable if they have a penis?

An honest question ... Do you have a son? I have two. I don't want someone to think its ok to hit my sons because they aren't girls.

"So if a man domestically abused a vunerable woman you can HONESTLY (and I mean this, not just posting stuff you wouldnt actually feel so you look better) say that you would view that equal to another man being beaten up and bullied."

Why would you think that Slipperyslopin?

On the other hand, 'don't hit people who are smaller/weaker/more vulnerable than you' is not a bad principle to teach children.

The implication, when a man says "I don't hit women", is that we're I not a woman, he would be hitting me because I deserve to be hit. So the only thing standing between me and a broken jaw is my breasts.

Can men seriously not see that this is threatening behavior? You shouldn't hit ANYONE! Women shouldn't hit men, because its assault, and illegal. Men shouldn't hit women, because its assault and illegal. Not through some twisted sense of whose genitals give them protection against male violence.

I agree that the 'I don't hit women' statement is a bit annoying. It's basically a man announcing his superior status and reminding the woman that he is (theoretically) physically stronger than her and could hurt her if he chose to.

Sorry obviously that should say they don't deserve cookies and blowjobs.

Yes I agree.

It's like they're being so generous and decent and we should all give them a fucking cookie for not hitting us.

Guess what, I don't hit people at all, even those I could hit and hurt and not be hurt back, not because I'm so nice and decent, but because I'm conscious that I don't have the right to.

These men are implying that they would be within their rights to do so, but are only holding back because they're so nice (and that means they probably deserve a blow-job from somewhere, incidentally, if anyone's around). But they wouldn't be within their rights to do so and they deserve cookies and blowjobs for not doing so.

OMC - oh, I get that it's a statement of principle.

But isn't that principle a bit creepy?

I can understand the principle 'I won't hit anyone', but to say it's specifically to do with gender implies that you would hit this person if they were a man, doesn't it?

Believing you should not hit women may be a position of principle drummed into a child since birth (though personally I would prefer to teach any sons I had that you don't hit).

Stating that you don't hit women in any form of heated situation is always going carry an implicit threat. The reason many men were taught that by their fathers is because women are the physically weaker sex (in the context of a fight, rather than on other matters necessarily). Stating that you don't hit women is basically saying "I am stronger than you. I have power over you. It is in my gift not to use that power". That is creepy as fuck as far as I am concerned.

OneMoreChap

"I find the 'I don't hit girls' thing deeply creepy, actually. It's effectively someone saying they'd like to hit you, isn't it?"

"No, it's a statement of principle.
In my case drummed into me by my father from an early age."

Anecdotal once more: my partner has never come out with this "I don't hit girls" horseshit. My ex did, quite often. Only one of them is a controlling twat who gets up in your face when he's angry. Guess which one it is?

LRDtheFeministDragon

I find the 'I don't hit girls' thing deeply creepy, actually. It's effectively someone saying they'd like to hit you, isn't it?

No, it's a statement of principle.
In my case drummed into me by my father from an early age.

I know that is only an anecdote but is struck me very strongly that it is a really nasty kind of threat, that they could hit you and it'd all be absolutely fine ... the only reason not to is that you're a woman. Not that hitting people is wrong. Not that you might not deserve to be hit. But just because they're too nice to hit women.

Being too nice... hmm
Hitting people is wrong is a generous philosophy, one which all Christians should espouse.

I would be more Old Testament in my response, and as I've indicated elsewhere, when pulling a wifebeater away from his wife, sometimes waiting 25 minutes for the police doesn't seem like an option.

True, eccles.

I find the 'I don't hit girls' thing deeply creepy, actually. It's effectively someone saying they'd like to hit you, isn't it?

I saw a bloke doing this once, getting right into some poor woman's face and yelling how she was pushing him but he couldn't hit a woman. I know that is only an anecdote but is struck me very strongly that it is a really nasty kind of threat, that they could hit you and it'd all be absolutely fine ... the only reason not to is that you're a woman. Not that hitting people is wrong. Not that you might not deserve to be hit. But just because they're too nice to hit women.

How creepy is that?

I've never really put weight in the argument that women deserve protection from violence any more than men because they're smaller/weaker. There's a lot of variation in men too, but no-one really cares if a big guy and a smaller guy were fighting, no-one claims that the bigger guy should have taken the high road because retaliation would have been disproportionate (not that it isn't true, just that no-one seems to apply the same arguments).

I lived over the road from a pub for a while, and I saw a lot of women abusing the 'you don't hit girls' rule by provoking men, goading their boyfriends to fight, etc, and generally being a lot more mouthy than the men. The men in comparison seemed to be more reserved, I assume because they feared that if they got similarly belligerent there was a risk they'd get punched.

Yep. Good idea.

I think it's time we developed selective hearing en masse.

I know Narked. Amazing isn't it. I think Fastidia has addressed him for the same thing on another thread, just now.

Sorry OP for the slight derail. But these little digs from OMC are coming from the same place as the examples you gave in you OP.

There it is again

colditz

Sounds good to me.

Not necessarily practical when I pulled a bloke at a party off his girlfriend who he was leathering. He smacked me, I knocked him down and basically sat on him till the police arrived which was about 25 minutes later.

Their suggestion was I should have taken him outside and given him a shoeing.

No, must have been the wind.

Did anyone hear something? A persistent whining noise?

I expect to be treated as I treat others. If a person is walking behind me as I go through a door, I will hold it open so they can pass through. I will give elderly, disabled or pregnant people my seat on a train. I don't hit people and I don't expect to be hit. If someone hits me, I don't hit them back, I call the police and have them charged with assault. I don't expect to be sexually assaulted because someone thinks I look attractive in what I have chosen to wear. I don't sexually assault people.

I don't expect to be treated differently because I have breasts. I don't expected to be unemployable because I am a woman who has given birth. I don't expect to be hit, I don't expect anyone to be hit. Hitting is how chimps communicate, and I do not associate myself with chimps.

AbigailAdams

I find it amusing that OMC's posts frequently contain something derogatory against women.

I'll be similarly amused if you can find ANYthing in that post derogatory against womEn.

I note you're referring to my previous posts, all of which I'd wager a pound to a pinch of pigshit you haven't read, and as in passing isn't it regarded as the height of bad manners to do that?

I find it amusing that OMC's posts frequently contain something derogatory against women. Obviously then tempered by showing what a good guy he really is.

Cool story bro