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OAP home allows residents to book sex workers

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Charlezee · 29/01/2013 01:43

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4767106/investigation-into-nursing-home-for-allowing-prostitutes.html

What do you think?

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badinage · 03/02/2013 02:07

As suspected, that quote attributed to Rhoda Grant was a blatant lie.

Consultation about any proposed change to the law never just hears from one lobby - and quite rightly takes into account the vested interests of those who are opposed to change, as well as those seeking change. Good consultation encompasses the additional views of people without vested interests and especially those who have no financial or criminal interests in the outcome. While the opinions of people who buy and sell sex should be sought, their voices shouldn't be given any greater weight than any other lobby in the consultation. The sale and purchase of sex doesn't just affect the sellers and buyers after all.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 00:14

Ms Grant's lack of information/knowledge was indeed raised in the consultation, by people far better informed/more knowledgeable than her (including the blogger earlier linked, sex-worker Laura Lee). I will be interested to see the outcome of the consultation, given that the previous attempt was thrown out on Human Rights grounds.

FloraFox · 03/02/2013 00:08

We don't have a reliable account of what she said however it seems to have been on the question of age on entering prostitution. If she wasn't aware of this research no doubt someone will have raised it in the consultation. Which is the point of the consultation.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 02/02/2013 23:59

Neither do I. But if Ms Grant claimed there was no other research available, she was being somewhat disingenuous. Not only is there work done by Dr Jenkins, there is also research done by Dr Teela Sanders.

When you seek to change the law, you should at least understand the effects of your changes.

FloraFox · 02/02/2013 23:48

I have no idea what Rhoda Grant said let alone whether she's read this paper.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 02/02/2013 23:43

No, a source which Ms Grant could have used to inform herself about the current state of prostitution in the UK.

And it's written by a feminist.

FloraFox · 02/02/2013 23:38

Source for what? What Rhoda Grant supposedly said in a public meeting?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 02/02/2013 23:31

Here's a more up-to-date, British-based source. myweb.dal.ca/mgoodyea/Documents/Sex%20work%20-%20General/Beyond%20gender%20Jenkins%20PhD%202009.pdf

FloraFox · 02/02/2013 23:27

Pfft

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FloraFox · 02/02/2013 23:23

So not a source then.

Jaan11 · 02/02/2013 23:18

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FloraFox · 02/02/2013 23:16

That's not a source.

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FloraFox · 02/02/2013 23:08

I don't know what she said. You've shown yourself to be dishonest in your account of what she said so I'm not going to take your word for it. Your comment was weak though.

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FloraFox · 02/02/2013 22:48

That's a bit rich from someone who totally misrepresented what Rhida Grant said.

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FloraFox · 02/02/2013 22:29

Yes

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FloraFox · 02/02/2013 22:08

I guess you don't know much about how laws are made or an effective way engage yourself in the process.

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FloraFox · 02/02/2013 21:54

Since you have totally misrepresented her other statement I'm not commenting on what you said she said. If you want to challenge her survey you'll need to point to another one. It's a bit weak to say "I don't accept your survey so do another one". The proposed change of law is not driven by that survey.

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