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OAP home allows residents to book sex workers

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Charlezee · 29/01/2013 01:43

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4767106/investigation-into-nursing-home-for-allowing-prostitutes.html

What do you think?

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OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 04:16

It can't be that hard, badinage managed it in a short time.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 04:14

Erm, try actually reading it, then you'd know.

FloraFox · 03/02/2013 04:10

What facts are in there?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 04:07

Flora, if you were actually interested in the facts, you'd read it. What is it that disturbs you so?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 04:06

(Given that the much-quoted Melissa Farley is self-funded and self-published, according to Dr Magnanti.)

FloraFox · 03/02/2013 04:06

Doubt it. I've read enough pomo / third wave bullshit for one lifetime. You can't even be bothered to or you're not capable of summarising the salient points. Why should I bother to read it?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 04:03

It doesn't change everthing. It sheds new light.

Have you read it?

FloraFox · 03/02/2013 03:59

Oh a PhD paper written by someone somewhere... that changes everything. Or not.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 03:57

Leaving aside the stats on what % of sex workers are streetworkers (I'llhave another look tomorrow) how do you feel about her general thesis, now you've read it so thoroughly?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 03:52

It was, after all, written after much research, actually meeting with and talking to sex workers, been more than peer-reviewed (since it gained her her pHD) and published... But of course your opinion that it's "badly-written" matters more.

badinage · 03/02/2013 03:51

Yes I'm a very quick reader and familiar with academic texts. But if you're interested in helping the discussion along, do say where it discusses the ratios of brothel workers/street prostitutes and independents. It just doesn't seem to be there. Am I wasting my time looking for it? A cut and paste or a Page No. would really help.

Jaan11 · 03/02/2013 03:51

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FloraFox · 03/02/2013 03:50

That's fine. I don't need to know as I don't actually care. Thank you for confirming that you don't agree with Jaans' assertion that the views of pimps and prostitutes should be given more weight.

Jaans?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 03:48

You've read it all, already?

badinage · 03/02/2013 03:45

Rhoda Grant hasn't said that people's lived experience doesn't count though (neither has anyone on this thread either asfar as I can see) and the consultation was available to everyone.

I was referring to that Jenkins thesis, which I think is very badly written and I still can't find the evidence you claim. Does it actually exist?

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 03:45

And no, I won't answer your question as to whether I am a pimp etc, it's a typical silencing technique.

"Oh, you must be be a whore/pimp, so we can ignore your feelings/opinion".

Slut-shaming. Do take it elsewhere.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 03:40

Opinions, based on... what? are meaningless unless backed up with yer actual research/information. And I have never said that the opinions of sex-workers should be given more weight than anyone else's, just that it is important to take into account actual lived experience.

And no, badinage, I don't agree that Dr Magnanti's phd thesis is appallingly-written. Keep reading, wontcha?

FloraFox · 03/02/2013 03:40

Jaans

badinage · 03/02/2013 03:38

Will you answer the outstanding questions please OLKN and Jaan11?

Jaan11 · 03/02/2013 03:36

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FloraFox · 03/02/2013 03:33

It was you and Jaan who said the views of the pimps and prostitutes should be given more weight.

badinage · 03/02/2013 03:32

I'm wading through it, but can't find any evidence about your claims about ratios. It's appallingly written isn't it? Doesn't know the difference between practice and practise, for example.

I don't think Flora was talking about facts. She mentioned opinions. If your opinions are based on being a prostitute, a punter or a pimp - there is personal bias. It's the same with the consultation - the lawmakers need to know the vested interests before they'll give weight to people's opinions.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 03/02/2013 03:24

My apologies if I mixed you up with someone else, badinage, but the link remains a good one regardless. Try reading it? It's long, but even the intro gives a flavour.

And Flora, why do the facts change depending on who presents them?