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Ok, cellulite:

Between the muscle and the skin is the subcutaneous fat layer, through which bands of connective tissue run. When the fat cells get bigger they distort the connective tissue fastening muscle and skin and this pulls and dimples the skin.

I haven't read chick lit since Bridget Jones, or does that count?

"chick lit"!

Just out of curiosity, what are those novels?

Email from Amazon:

"For today only, five novels for women"

Ah well, at least it was women not girls or ladies!

Metro headline - Sex with consent "can still be rape"

Actual story - woman consented to sex with her H if he withdrew - presumably as contraception - he did not and judge ruled that negated her consent as she was deprived of choice regarding the crucial feature on which the original consent was based.

Score 1 to the judges, zero to the Metro headline writer.

Aww, that's lovely.

That is sad about the girls though - at 3, as well!

Ahhh, see, I was goint to be dead impression with the fancy words, but now tei has pointed out the deep deep sexism ...

That is interesting though, thanks.

Anyway ... I just remembered I had something nice to post. I've been getting steadily a little more depressed, as I keep attending weddings (my mates are all at that age), and these women keep merrily changing their names and having the traditional 'big three' speeches from the father of the bride, the groom, and the best man, while she sits there silently.

I am aware everyone is entitled to do what they like ... it just gets depressing when it's everyone doing the same.

However, DH and I went to the wedding of a couple of mates at the weekend, and not only was it extremely beautiful and so on, but also, the bride who is a lovely and shy woman, got up to explain her new husband had always known she would want to keep her own name and would want to speak, so here she was doing it. And she gave a brilliant speech. It was so lovely to see.

Well, my local butcher happens to be a man. He runs the shop with his son. His wife runs a flower shop across the road. (I know her quite well!) But I take your point, TeiTetua and feel suitably put in my place. I should have put "...on the slab."

Be honest now--did anyone else get a twitch of the eyebrow when they encountered the words "butcher throwing meat down on his slab"?

(It's the word "his" that I'm talking about--no questions being raised about feminists should all be vegetarians.)

Well, lucky for you, LRD, I happen to have a Greek etymological dictionary on my shelf.

I have just looked up the three words I gave you this morning.

entera is apparently in Homer's Iliad in exactly that form.

entosthia can be found in Aristotle

splachna is in the Odyssey as splagchna (g=gamma, ch =one letter chi, sorry MN does not support Greek alphabet)

Splachna has a good sound to it. I'll try to call somebody a splachna today.

I have often been asked for random Greek words by English speaking friends, but I think this is the first time anyone has asked me how to say "entrails". I'm not quite sure how you could slip it into conversation, but here it is:

entosthia

you could also say entera (intestines) or perhaps splachna. I rather like splachna, it makes me think of a butcher throwing meat down on his slab ready to cut. Splat!

[leaves hurriedly as the tone of the feminist boards has been lowered]

well you did ask me to repeat it!

Not that I took a lot of persuading!

well, untranslatable might be a better way to put it.

But it boiled down to saying that cellulite could fuck itself up its own arse as far as the entrails (it works fine in Greek). I pointed out that cellulite was on the arse, and he said he'd put the people who thought up these products on their, erm, entrail-fucked arses too.

Yes men get cellulite too, but less so as they have a lower proportion (on average) of the relevant cells. Also they have more body hair to cover it up.

Well done lord copper!

My dh has just said something unrepeatable about what he thinks of cellulite. On men, women or any other creature. He also said before you know it they'll be selling creams that make your fingers grow longer or your ankles less bony, and there will be people anxiously buying them.

Well done, LordCopper!

[Very Big Pat on the back]

{heirokrotima} - in Greek too, just to emphasise how great you are!

I am a card carrying member of my city's Blood Donor Volunteers Group, it's always nice to hear people volunteering!