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Chat thread - come chat, rant, or celebrate, here!

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 23/01/2013 22:48

With thanks to the lovely timetosmile - here's the new and rejuvenated Chat Thread.

Space to yak on, rant, post any of the good and bad stuff ... just basically any chat that you don't feel fits into a specific post. With a side order of reclaiming the word 'gossip'.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 19/02/2013 08:35

LRD, I'm really surprised (and disheartened) given what you do that you get that response. In my day all the PhD types I knew wouldn't have dreamt of mocking feminism.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 18/02/2013 20:37

It's awful. And incredibly patronizing.

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ediblewoman · 18/02/2013 20:33

I know, when I think of the women I know within the field locally I cannot conceive that none of them applied/were appointable. It is just...well.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 18/02/2013 20:31

Rant away.

That is really appalling, though. The idea they couldn't find a woman to do tht job. As if. I mean, how absurd.

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ediblewoman · 18/02/2013 20:29

I have had that too, weird.

I am feeling a bit of a rant, my employer is winding me up, the new Commissioner for Violence Against Women and Girls post (and arghh at the job title surely it needs an 'against' in there) is a man. I really strongly feel it should have been an exempted post, but have been repeatedly told that I am wrong and that the new bloke must be experienced. Which totally misses the point that he could be a brilliant commissioner but we have little to no real experience in frontline organisations that campaign against violence against women or work with women fleeing violence as those posts are, almost exclusively, restricted to women only.

Rant over, feel better now...

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 18/02/2013 20:15

Real life people do. In their terminology it's my own 'fault' since I'm rude enough to admit to it in RL.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 18/02/2013 19:54

LRD, do RL people ask you why you are a feminist? Or do you mean on the Internet?
I don't really have that happen in RL.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 18/02/2013 19:02

So how is everyone doing?

I'm sitting here imagining some wonderful feminist utopia in which I could reasonably expect not to have to have the same boring arguments about why I'm a feminist over and over.

Does this get anyone else down? Crikey. I mean, I know it's positive people are interested, but I do get a bit tired of it.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 09/02/2013 11:05

I was doing party bags for DS2 last night and had to make a conscious effort not to "match" the pink bookmarks from the assorted bookmarks with the Upsy Daisy books from the ITNG sets I was splitting up.

I am Hmm at myself. I have sealed all the bags to stop myself from checking which is which when I give them out.

DS2 is 3.

AbigailAdams · 31/01/2013 19:05

I love Hillary Clinton. I'll see if it is on iPlayer.

Loving that anecdote alexpolismum! I bet it made you all warm and fuzzy inside!

alexpolismum · 31/01/2013 18:20

A nice little anecdote from my dd.

She was doing one of those exercises where you have to match up words. It was in Greek, but it was basicly like this: Small + little, big + large, that sort of thing. At the end, I was teasing her and said "So, dd, what goes with "girl" then?"
"clever!" she replied promptly Grin

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 31/01/2013 17:40

Thanks, I'll go listen ...

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 31/01/2013 17:29

Tribute to Hillary Clinton, who is stepping down, on PM (radio 4) right now. Very interesting.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 31/01/2013 14:07
Shock

Oh, good point, we can't expect them to be thinking we're human!

But yes ... that's a really interesting question. I wonder. I do think there's a particular kind of misogyny that has a lot to do with a sort of squeamish hated of women's bodies. But I don't know if that's the same thing.

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TerrariaMum · 31/01/2013 14:00

Ah, but if the misogynist types had to contend with the fact that women also have interesting discussions and whinge and laugh and run the full gamut of conversation, then they would have to acknowledge that women are human which might mean them having to change their behaviour.

On that note, is misogyny rooted in a fear of biological femaleness? I'm just pondering.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 31/01/2013 13:12

Thank you! Grin

It is funny how much it helps to get it out there, isn't it? This is why I think all the silly comments about women 'bitching' are off the mark.

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 31/01/2013 13:05

Grr with you, LRD!

alexpolismum · 31/01/2013 13:03

Rant away, LRD, it does you good!

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 31/01/2013 12:25

I didn't know that doctrine. Interesting.

I admit, I came on here to rant. I am currently being mansplained about teaching feminism at university. By someone who, if I remember rightly, barely completed his degree and is in a totally different subject area from me.

Angry

Grrrr!

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TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub · 27/01/2013 22:08

Of the 25 names being investigated for the Barclays LIBOR scandal, two are women. I just felt I wanted to note this somewhere.

AbigailAdams · 27/01/2013 14:49

I know about Athena Swann bigkids we have just got into it at our place. I went to a presentation on it just before Xmas. It looks really good an in depth too.

Rant about Ice Age 1. Mother and baby jump in river to escape sabre-toothed tiger. No more mention of mother. She is just erased. No acknowledgment of death or anything. It appears it was a man's world even then!

alexpolismum · 27/01/2013 11:52

that is indeed a lovely dog Grin!

Even the cartoons are annoying me today. The television is staying off. I've got the children looking at books and playing with lego. Dh is making me a cuppa kneading some pizza dough. He makes great pizza bases and it horrifies MIL that I've got him working in the kitchen. Cheers me up no end. I am calming down.

doyouwantfrieswiththat · 27/01/2013 11:28

monty don's dog

alexpolismum · 27/01/2013 08:34

doyouwantfries I wouldn't mind shots of a dog! I quite like dogs! And people don't tend to dress them up in high heels, suspenders and heavy make up!

bigkidsdidit · 27/01/2013 08:33

Btw I'm not denying discrimination as well as women not putting themselves forward _ the fact noone is very sure of the process means the old boys network has a chance to kick in