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This has really upset me.

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HighBrows · 21/01/2013 17:28

Man out on bail for rape of daughter

Basically this animal man raped his daughter for over 10 years. She finally got her day in court and the 12 year sentence was reduced to 3 years ANC he's been given bail to appeal.

This judge gives very low sentences for sexual assualts. My daughters 11& 12 were listening to this with me and I told them the only way for change to shit like this is for them to strive and want change too. I told them to become future law makers.

I'm heartbroken for this woman, she is so brave and she deserved justice.

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dublinrose37 · 22/01/2013 11:42

I did a law module in college back in the late 90's and we were told by our lecturer - a female feminist barrister - that in a lot of Western countries sex crimes against women are just not seen as being all that serious. I didn't believe her but looking at some of the high profile cases over the past few years I have to wonder. Its just heartbreaking to think that poor woman has put herself through all that only to see her attacker walk free. I'm sure she heard the guilty verdict and thought she finally had her justice, she must have been devestated to find out he was never going to serve a day. Its scary, its no wonder so few people report sex attacks, would you have any faith in the system after that?

TunipTheVegedude · 22/01/2013 11:40

So shocked at those links Marceline.

WilsonFrickett · 22/01/2013 11:30

Don't delete, it's important. Mr Justice Carney is clearly a rapist-loving woman-hater. Dear God. Something has to be done about his sentencing. Those poor, poor women.

AreYouADurtBirdOrALadyBird · 22/01/2013 07:42

Something has to be done about this judge. His sentences are highly questionable.

CheerfulYank · 22/01/2013 05:56

And it says something about his wife??! Is the mother still married to him?

I honestly think I'd kill my DH.

CheerfulYank · 22/01/2013 05:51

That scum sucking sack of shit. Angry His own daughter, and just a tiny girl. :(

I'm in America, but is there anything I can do?

sashh · 22/01/2013 05:38

Will I try and get this deleted?

No. Don't. I'm upset by this, and I'm angry.

The more people are angry the closer to justice Fiona Doyle gets.

Normally I am anti vigilante justice. In this case I hope his neighbors are not speaking to him, that his relatives shun him, generally that he gets some form of punishment.

I am so angry about the way Irish women are treated. This is a European country, this is not Saudi or Afghanistan.

What can be done? I don't know.

Could this be discussed in the European Parliament?

Would that do any good?

All I know is I'm angry, and I'm not going to calm down soon.

Snazzynewyear · 21/01/2013 21:46

Unspeakable. What can be done? I am not in Ireland but if there is something useful I can add my support to I will.

MarcelineTheVampireQueen · 21/01/2013 21:11

The Judges name rang a bell so in looking him up I was reminded of the rapist he left walk free from court, get on the same train home as his victim..

www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/rape-victims-horror-as-attacker-walks-free-301990.html

I cant even explain this one its so shocking... (TRIGGER WARNING)

www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/gangrape-woman-arrested-during-trial-following-overdose-3017017.html

WaynettaSlobsLover · 21/01/2013 21:01

Speaking as someone who's great grandfather was a paedophile and knowing people who have been raped as well as a family friend who was abused with the knowledge of her own mother, I stand by my opinion that the death penalty for these animals is the only way forward. Look statistically at the amount of scum who have sexual offences on their records, get jailed or appear in court, are in for a few years or months, and get out only to do it all over again to some innocent person or child. They have an illness and an urge that cannot be cured or rehabilitated, so making sure they can never do it again and be free in public is the only sure fire way to protect others.

Smudging · 21/01/2013 20:46

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HighBrows · 21/01/2013 20:22

Yes this judge is horrific.

The while story makes me weep. The mothers part in it is beyond shocking.

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Smudging · 21/01/2013 20:20

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tribpot · 21/01/2013 20:18

Who can you trust if you can't trust your daughter's father?

Probably not relevant in this case, feministe, as the mother appears to have colluded in the abuse and referred to the child as 'your father's whore', which is quite staggering.

Unfortunately I can imagine that the chances of re-offending were part of the consideration. I'm assuming the father 'specialised' in child abuse rather than rape in general and thus provided any children in the family are safeguarded there is little chance of him re-offending (esp given the state of his health).

However, the sentencing seems to have focused on the fact 'he said sorry' and 'it happened a long time ago' - as if somehow that makes it all okay.

Smudging · 21/01/2013 20:15

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feministefatale · 21/01/2013 20:11

Hey, it's my fault for reading it OP, I just wasn't expecting it to be as graphic as it was. The bit I mention about the little girl getting in to position made it seem "more real" than I was prepared for. My fault. Not yours. Don't delete. I do dispair some times though. My little girls is just a baby. HOw can you keep them safe? Who can you trust if you can't trust your daughter's father?

HighBrows · 21/01/2013 20:02

Ok. You're right people need to know.

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TunipTheVegedude · 21/01/2013 20:01

No, please don't try and get it deleted. People need to know. And the thread title warns that it will be something upsetting so if people can't cope with it they will have avoided looking at the thread.

HighBrows · 21/01/2013 19:59

I'm sorry I've posted this. Maybe I shouldn't have but I'm really upset and something needs to change.

Will I try and get this deleted?

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HighBrows · 21/01/2013 19:58

I'm anti death penalty.

I'm glad this lady waived her right to anonymity. At least he's named and shamed.

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feministefatale · 21/01/2013 19:56

That is absolutely heart breaking. The little girl would just get in to position every night because she knew she was going to be raped. And this piece of shit gets out because he is OLD? And the judge struck a balance? That is an equal balanced punishment for raping your child? I wish I hadn't read it, it's the sort of things that makes you cry all night for your own daughters and wonder what the fuck you have done bringing them in to this world.

TunipTheVegedude · 21/01/2013 19:53

Cashmere, she chose to waive her anonymity.

WaynettaSlobsLover · 21/01/2013 19:50

This is why, I'm afraid, for scum like this, the death penalty in my opinion is the only real justice. He will very very likely get out of jail in a few years to go on and re-offend. With rapists and paedophiles, this is what generally happens.

CashmereHoodlum · 21/01/2013 19:48

Have just read the first couple of sentences and will read the rest later but are women in Ireland not entitled to anonymity in rape cases?

tribpot · 21/01/2013 19:46

I went on to Twitter to see if any of the action groups had picked up on this - some outrage but so far no concerted campaign.

I would tweet it to Marian Keyes, she has an enormous following and was very outspoken following the death of Savita Halappanavar.