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Why can't programs with female lead characters be aimed at men/boys too?

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apartridgeinapeartree · 09/11/2012 14:30

This one annoyed me today!

DS's new favourite thing is a DVD which DP got him: "Mona the Vampire".

It's a cartoon - Mona and her friends (one girl, one boy) fight ghouls, goblins, aliens etc. To an adult viewer, it's clear it's all in their imagination, it's nicely done IMO. It's good fun and DS loves it.

It's an American cartoon, but the British marketing which comes with it has an incentive to buy more Mona DVDs - makeup.

It didn't even occur to me that it was aimed specifically at girls! DS is too young to pick up on this, but a "makeup" offer might make older boys decide it's not for them. And even if it doen't, it's clear the company marketing it see it as a girls thing.

I'm fed up with male leads being the default but female leads being a special girls/women's thing - even in children's programs! CBeebies is sadly guilty of this too sometimes isn't it? (Thinking of Tree Fu Tom for example - all the main characters are male, except one token female).

I can think of very few programs / films where the lead is female but it's aimed at a mixed audience. Can you think of any?

The wonderful Fargo springs to mind, can you think of any more to cheer me up? This is depressing!

OP posts:
ParsingFancy · 09/11/2012 16:05

female feminist role-model

ParsingFancy · 09/11/2012 16:03

Hmm, on the Fargo theme, several female cops/detectives:

Cagney & Lacey (but was that primarily aimed at women?)
any Miss Marple
Vera
Case Sensitive
PD James' Cordelia Gray series.

Which reminds me, the film Charlotte Gray.

I'm using the OP's criteria of female lead + general appeal, rather than female role-model.

fluffyanimal · 09/11/2012 16:02

Do a google search for images of Buffy, see how many cleavage shots, cropped tops and short skirts there are.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 09/11/2012 15:58

Ie not usually skimpy...

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 09/11/2012 15:57

Buffy is a bit of a different kettle of fish to Tomb Raider though. She's usually in standard teenager clothing, I think.

fluffyanimal · 09/11/2012 15:54

Resident Evil/Buffy/Tomb Raider: all appealing to male audiences because of a "sexy" female in long boots/leather/skimpy high school clothes flings her legs around and/or has a liking for big guns (phallic image). I don't see any of these as feminist role models I'm afraid.

ParsingFancy · 09/11/2012 15:54

Oh and Dollhouse, also from Joss Whedon.

GetAllTheThings · 09/11/2012 15:53

Million Dollar Baby
Silence of the Lambs
V for Vendetta
Monster

GetAllTheThings · 09/11/2012 15:51

Charlie and Lola ?
Little Einsteins maybe ( although the 'leader is a boy )

ParsingFancy · 09/11/2012 15:50

Buffy, naturally.

GetAllTheThings · 09/11/2012 15:49

Yes Tom Cruise was pencilled in at one point.

I thought True Grit was outstanding.

Pootles2010 · 09/11/2012 15:49

I'm not sure if it is aimed at girls or not, but - Peppa pig. My ds loves it, we were going to do Peppa Pig party for him (didn't in end due to costs) but one of dp's friends was suprised that we were doing him a 'girlie' party Hmm

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 09/11/2012 15:45

Salt is an interesting one, IIRC it was either written with a male or a gender non-specific lead (I.e. Salt)

GetAllTheThings · 09/11/2012 15:27

films that spring instantly to mind...

True Grit ( Cohen Bros version )
Salt ( Angelina Jolie )
The Secret Garden
Wizard of Oz ( ? )
Pixar's Brave
5 Alien films
4 resident Evil films
3 Underworld films
The Hunger Games
Colombiana
Hanna
Tomb Raider

Not sure how mixed the audience might be.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 09/11/2012 15:00

You are so right.

I've bought Jane and the Dragon for DS1. Recommended on
Amightygirl.com

We watch Nina and the Neurons, good as Nina is just "the scientist"

Also: Studio Ghibli films eg Kiki's Delivery Service.

Apologies if you know of these already.