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Kate Moss article in the Guardian

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Greythorne · 01/11/2012 18:41

Kate Moss took one for the team

Has the Guardian gone mad publishing this drivel?

In the light of sexual abuse stories across the media, we are now told coercion to strip is 'taking one for the team'.

Words fail me.

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TeiTetua · 01/11/2012 20:59

You have to look at the entire last paragraph, two sentences, to get the context.

"Ultimately, the shoot was a bad experience for Moss, but a turning point for fashion and art. Back in 1990, she took one for the team."

And if it needs more explanation, it comes higher up:
"...our fashion director Katie Grand was at pains to emphasise that a fashion shoot was a collaboration between model, photographer, stylist and all the other people who worked on it..."

So the team is all those other people who put the product together; the claim is that it's not just someone pointing a camera at a woman. And what's done for the "team" isn't just the pictures made that day, but a change (maybe) in the fashion world forever after. Of course there are people who really do concern themselves very greatly with this fashion and modelling and "art" business, and this article is basically addressed to them. Whether it's just a load of guff that everyone else should dismiss, I don't know.

Kate Moss may have hated that first experience, but let's not just say it's "exploitation" when we know she has big piles of money to console her. Would she want to go back to age 16 and just be ordinary?

ForkInTheForeheid · 01/11/2012 19:07

FFS. I read that earlier but gave up half way through so hadn't seen that last sentence. What team is he referring to exactly? It is bizarre in the light of the tone of stories about vulnerable teenagers being exploited in the stories you're referring to. It's almost as though because she's so successful it doesn't count that she was treated abominably by people in a position of trust.

Whether or not she is upset about it now, it shouldn't be so glibly dismissed in the manner that guardian writer has done.

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