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Is the term 'Angry Fucking' potentially offensive to some women?

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Ohsiena · 31/10/2012 12:25

Ok I said I wouldn't start this, but I've been challenged to do so enough times, so I'm giving in.

It's about this thread - To think you should stay out of other people's bedrooms (378 Posts) 1This thread.

A very few of us understood why the term angry fucking was offensive to MrsC originally.

Most thought she had no sense of humour and just didn't get the joke.

Discussion was widened as a poster thught it was worse as used by a man. This has been attacked as sexist.

I stated on there that I'd like to see what some of the more feminist minded posters would make of this discussion.

I didn't want to start this, I've felt like a bit of a lone voice on there at times and need to do some RL stuff, but I've been called again and again to do so, so I have.

You'll see the phrase pearl clutching a lot....

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PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:28

That's fair enough polar, to be honest I am
More confused why people find it more offensive from a man...

If you find it offensive full stop then you do, we are all different.

ScrambledSmegsEvilTwin · 31/10/2012 13:27

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'Angry fucking' ... hmm. Nope, sorry, I can't equate that term with abuse. To me fucking implies two people (or more, depending on your proclivities) having consensual but somewhat annoyed sex. It happens. I'd prefer the word bonking because I don't actually like 'fucking' as a word, but that's me.

And people being more upset that the poster who made the initial joke was a man? That's sexist. Really, really sexist. I'm pretty Shock at that, more so than by the original comment. I honestly thought MN was better than that Sad.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:26

Fair enough. I'm getting deeper into this than I really want to. But for he record since I seem to be in a minority I didn't like it, I found it an unnecessarily agreessive comment, and I think the same whether made by a mn or a woman.

Aboutlastnight · 31/10/2012 13:26

It was a lighthearted comment.

Within the context of the thread there was no reason to take offence. On a thread of a different nature then it would be appropriate.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:26

Polar - that's fair enough. I don't agree with you but I don't want to belittle your feelings just put my view across.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:25

Honestly? I think some posters have a bit of an issue with beardy and his humour and have a bit of an agenda here. bd jumped on it.

By that mrscant I DONT mean you.

That's my thought.

Which is why I really hope this thread dosent turn into a blood bath again!

PeggyCarter · 31/10/2012 13:23

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SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:23

And I don't think sex always has to be loving, but I do think it always has to be respectful, even if on the surface its not iyswim
Anyway, I I'd not clutch my pearls or fall over. I am not horrified by the use of the term. But I was a little put off by the term suddenly popping up in the middle of a light hearted thread.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:22

To you perhaps..

Sex lives are so varied. It's a real tricky one.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:21

joyful it was mainly due to the fact it was a male poster. That is what annoyed me tbh.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:20

I know they do but I disagree that that means it isn't either aggressive or "pretend aggression" iyswim. in the same way, but not on the same scale, as couples acting out rape fantasies. Fuck is not a loving or respectful word.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:20

I suggested to start a shiney new thread to discuss a few points from the previous one without being personal to other posters.

And this is what we got. Confused

PeggyCarter · 31/10/2012 13:19

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InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:19

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PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:19

In the words of baldrick there have been more twists and turns than a twisty turny thing!

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ISeeDeadFairies · 31/10/2012 13:19

It is a thread about a thread however the concerns is on the original thread was to start this in order to stop the hijack. We all agreed as it were sorry if that was not clear it's just that we felt this should be a topic I it's own.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:18

Polar bear, plenty of people enjoy talk like that.

Not me personally but i know plenty that do.

So it can't be fair or right to say everyone who would use fucking in that context is violent or unpleasant in some way.

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:18

Balls. I give up.

ChippingInLovesAutumn · 31/10/2012 13:18

MrsCan'tSayAnything - why start a thread then dictate what people post on it?

The originial comment was made in reference to The Incredible Hulk & the bloke needing to get angry to turn into the Hulk. It was a throw away comment which was mildly amusing.

You have made it something it wasn't.

It was not about violent or agressive sex.

You are twisting it to be offended by it.

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:17

No...no apology was offered Straw and why report the thread? Nobody's being harmed. If anything it clears up things.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:17

Are threads about threads actually banned then?

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:17

Mrs you will have to be more specific as there are two Fanjos here.

If me I'm still here because I wish to be

MrsCantSayAnything · 31/10/2012 13:17

Fanjo it's just that you keep saying the same things over and over.

StrawWars · 31/10/2012 13:16

This is an odd thread - "Is the term 'Angry Fucking' potentially offensive to some women?" - clearly it is offensive to some women as it did offend some women on the thread you mention. And then an apology was offered.

So what's your point? What do you hope to achieve?

I've reported this as a thread about a thread.