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Is the term 'Angry Fucking' potentially offensive to some women?

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Ohsiena · 31/10/2012 12:25

Ok I said I wouldn't start this, but I've been challenged to do so enough times, so I'm giving in.

It's about this thread - To think you should stay out of other people's bedrooms (378 Posts) 1This thread.

A very few of us understood why the term angry fucking was offensive to MrsC originally.

Most thought she had no sense of humour and just didn't get the joke.

Discussion was widened as a poster thught it was worse as used by a man. This has been attacked as sexist.

I stated on there that I'd like to see what some of the more feminist minded posters would make of this discussion.

I didn't want to start this, I've felt like a bit of a lone voice on there at times and need to do some RL stuff, but I've been called again and again to do so, so I have.

You'll see the phrase pearl clutching a lot....

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ISeeDeadFairies · 31/10/2012 14:03

Op I apologise that the thread has been reported. I was not in anyway trying to cause trouble asking you to start a new one I simply wanted to open the forum up.

I have also posted that it was 'agreed' as such that you did this however some have still reported you so apologies for this as I did encourage you.

EdsRedeemingQualities · 31/10/2012 14:01

Can we just make clear the difference between a view and a feeling? I don't think any of us can really dictate what is offensive, what 'should' be offensive and what other people ought to find offensive.

I think all anyone can do is say that they feel offended by certain things, or by certain people saying them, whether or not they are able to articulate why.

Ohsiena · 31/10/2012 13:58

No no joyfulpuddlejumper, you are just what the thread needs. More just like you, and less like me, Ed and a bunch of others who've done this to death between us.

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PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:58

And ed, I'm going to respect your wishes about not engaging with you, but it's bad form to refuse to engage with people yet reference them in your posts.

Just pointing that out.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:56

There are plenty of new posters on here osh.

If you didn't want the old thread and posters dragged in it wasn't a good idea to reference and link it.

And I said I wasn't going to comment on it. Look at me!

Anyway it's not been so bad, you have a few new viewpoints, and in the interest of fairness it was necessary to include the context.

What I am getting from this is that some other people don't like the term either, but there dosent seem to be much support for the view that it would be any less offensive to those that don't like it coming from a woman either.

PeggyCarter · 31/10/2012 13:53

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Ohsiena · 31/10/2012 13:50

Not not badly at all Ed Your are very wise in fact, much wiser than me!

Try not to get dragged in again, I think this thead will only really be interesting if new posters come and offer views, otherwise it's the same old rehashing of personal gripes between those of us on the other thread. Which seems a bit pointless.

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EdsRedeemingQualities · 31/10/2012 13:46

Hi Ohsiena and sorry for getting your name wrong this morning.

I hid the thread when I said I would, immediately I'd posted and have not been back so I don't know what has transpired since then - apart from a few vague updates I've got from reading the 'sweary' thread I found today, where a lot of the posters I was arguing with last night seem to hang out.

just wanted to say, I hope you don't think badly of me for staying away from it. I'm going to read this now x

Ohsiena · 31/10/2012 13:44

I was repeatedly asked to start another thead and now I'm being repeatedly reported for staring a thread about a thread!

I get some of you don't like the title it was not deliberately provocative but I guess I'm bound to skew things towards my view however hard I try to summarise fairly. Which I did try to do.

Most people here are actually agreeing with the view on the other thread, Polar Bear seem to be the lone voice this time, and yet still the majority feel they've been hard done by.

I'd did not compare Beardy to JS, I said his tone was like a DJ from Radio 1 in the 1970s which I explained, not backtracked, was a reference to the culture of sexual jokes about women which if they objected to they were accused of being humourless. Maybe it was the 80s, not sure, Liz Kershaw talked about it.

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ISeeDeadFairies · 31/10/2012 13:41

I'm reporting you for that pickled Wink

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:38

Can't believe I said baby dancing. The lows I have reached. [hsad]

ScrambledSmegsEvilTwin · 31/10/2012 13:38

Baby Dancing? BABY DANCING??!!!!

Wash your mouth out!!!! You'll be chucking glitter all over the place next!

We are not that sort of place. Honestly. Some people [[hhmm]

willyoulistentome · 31/10/2012 13:37

I hate it! 'Fuck' is a massive turn off for me. DH used to ask me if he could...and it just made me feel like going and f-ing himself! Angry f-ing is just vile.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:35

Well I don't call baby dancing fucking either.

But it's all about the context to me and this was clearly not a comment intended to be sexually threatening.

ScrambledSmegsEvilTwin · 31/10/2012 13:35

People can take offence at it though. I don't blame them for that. Honestly, I've looked at the original thread and have to admit I found the joke a bit distasteful, despite being a bit of a geek and knowing about the Hulk.

I'm just not a particularly sweary person, and it isn't normal to me.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:35

Fluffy babydancing Grin

"let's have relations?" Or "let's do the sexuals"

worldgonecrazy · 31/10/2012 13:34

I agree with scrambledegg that I'm also disappointed that something is offensive just because a man has said it.

"Angry fucking" to me implies that sort of mad sex that sometimes happens after an argument when two people who care about and love each other just need to work off some frustration.

In addition, using the word "fuck" in the appropriate context can be extremely sexy and a great turn on for both men and women.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:33

Fast moving thread :)

Seriously. If someone says fuck you, that is on a scale of disrespectful to incredibly threatening. I can't disassociate that from the term used to describe fluffy babydancing.

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:32

Ok phew!

Grin
SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:31

No to aboutlastnight

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:31

And people being more upset that the poster who made the initial joke was a man? That's sexist. Really, really sexist

Exactly that yet they didn't see it as sexist. Basically all men are sexual deviants who shouldn't make sex jokes is how the thread ended

PickledFanjoCat · 31/10/2012 13:30

Was that to me polar bear as if so you must have misread my post.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:30

So I'm struggling to understand how it can mean the complete opposite when used in asexual way. But hey Ho.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood · 31/10/2012 13:28

No reason to take offence?
I'll feel how I choose to feel thank you, which was mildly offended by a comment I felt was very bad taste. Please do not instruct me not to take offence.
Fuck when used in a non sexual Wu tends to mean screwed up, screwed over, meddled with, completely destroyed.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 31/10/2012 13:28

blood that was my argument. If your going to be offended by a joke that's your choice but it shouldnt matter what gender the person is who made it.

I couldn't say I want to fuck you to someone as they would probably laugh Grin

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