Is the term 'Angry Fucking' potentially offensive to some women?

I could say

"Fuck off polar bear"

or

You are dead fucking right polar bear

or

Fuck me polar you have a point there.

All mean different things, all contain fuck.

The word fuck is ALL about the context and the way that it is said.

What I meant was I found it unlikely your heroine would whisper "id like to fuck you". Just because you write it down doesn't make it any more likely. But I guess I'm in a minority. Like I said, if I wrote fuck you people would be horrified. Pearls would be clutched, smelling salts fetched. But not because fuck is an aggressive word apparently. There are no negative connotations whatsoever.

The point is, if you object to the phrase, would it matter if it was a man or a woman who said it?
Because I find racist names offensive. Even if the person using the term was that race. So I would find it offensive either way.
If you find the term angry Fucking offensive, then it must be offensive no mater who says it.

Not all of them polar bear, if I can see your point of view about not liking the word then surely you ought to be able to concede others do?

Look at McKay she is telling you how she uses fuck in a non violent and aggressive way, and your not listening.

"Are any of those contexts you've listed nice? No, all are associated with anger, frustration or violence."

You dont have to like it, you can tell men no dont use that word, you can object if you see it on a mumsnet board. This is all your right. Not my nag either all this I want to fuck you malarky I have to say.

But you cant insist others view it the same?

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood
Good Job "Congratufuckinglations

May well not be "nice" but not anger frustration or violence.

I told you I'd had the words said to me and they weren't nasty.

I also note the sly I don't actually think it will be likely she would say that

So are you having a pop at me because you disagree with me or some other reason?

Are any of those contexts you've listed nice? No, all are associated with anger, frustration or violence. So forgive me for assuming the blinding obvious.

I agree with pickles on this one. I use the word fucking sometimes but that's all it means to me, not rape or anything violent.

It is fine to disagree with the term angry fucking which is fine but not if the only basis for disagreeing was the fact that the poster was male

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point I was making was just because you insert the words into a flowery mills and boon doesn't make it so. I could have changed the story to have her saying "mork the alien wants to eat your hair" but I don't actually think it will be likely she would say that. Guessing you're not going to understand that and am going to find another way to put me down though. Go for it.

There is no way in hell that fuck and rape are the same thing!!

I often tell DH is can't wait to fuck him and he says the same to me. Just means we don't want to have slow lovey dovey sex.

Uses of the word 'fuck', so not just sex...

Polar I have to disagree that you can equate Fuck and Rape in that way or sense.

There are two discussions going here, seems.

One is if under any circumstance you dislike these terms - only you can answer that its personal and no one can be told they are wrong as a result.

The other is the very specific joke about the incredible hulk with his angry fucking.

What if a couple generally enjoy sex texts and the man texts I cant wait to fuck you later. OK not to your taste. What if he texts Im going to rape you later? Whole new ball game in my opinion.

lol at OneMoreChap - you should start writing a book.

When i was 16 the first man i ever slept with i started it by saying "I really want to fuck you, i mean it i really want to fuck you" and i did. I didnt know him but i wanted to get physical with him. The word fuck is not aggresive it just means sex with out feelings or a priouse relationship to me.

Ok. I can imagine that, thanks for the graphic and patronising description, but it doent sound very likely to me. I accept I lack imagination though. She could in that case say "i want to rape you" having come out ofbthe same dappled wood and with the loving smile on her face. Wouldn't make the words coming out of her mouth any less aggressive.

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood it's not a dig, but tbh it's a bit odd that you can't imagine any circumstance where "I enjoy fucking you" might not be said in a menacing manner.

Two young folk, out in the woods, dappled sunshine playing over them. Slowly moving, the girl on top smiles down at her beau and says "I enjoy fucking you..."

I must have got out of the sensitive side of the bed this morning. Sorry if that's the case. Tomorrow will be a new day.

I don't think you are being sensitive Shriek and I agree with you, they are digs. I also think that context is important and that includes the person making the comment.

I'm actually less offended by the term angry fucking than the other two:

• that if you don't like the word fuck you must prefer baby dancing
• that I lack imagination

I must have got out of the sensitive side of the bed this morning.

If the post had said something along the lines of 'your husband would use the incredible hulk dildo on you when you had made him angry' it would be a different post. It may be less obviously offensive because it didn't contain rude words but the implication of sexual violence by men against women is clear. But that's not what it said. Women being angrily fucked by men could be thought of as a feminist thing but the phrase angry fucking in itself can't be as there is on suggestion in that phrase that implies that it even involves women

" Maybe it's an imagination issue."
I maybe am easily offended today but that just seems like a dig.
Do you know what I find amusing. If I typed simply "fuck you" I'd be deleted so fast the ink wouldn't dry on the server.

It's clearly Whinyarse Week again. Not only are they scurrying all over the boards looking for something to give themselves the screaming shits about, but then they're starting new threads just to go 'Waaah! Make MN change so No-one Is Ever Allowed To Disagree With Meeeeeee!'

I think it's a MRA conspiracy to convince people that 'feminists' are all humourless, officious twats who have given up worrying about equal pay or reproductive rights in favour of stopping anyone telling jokes.

Thing is osh this is why I suggested a new thread in the first place.

The op just rehashes the old thread, and I think it's been reported so won't even be around for long.

Where did I ask you not to engage with me, Pickled? Sorry, I must have forgotten if I have done so.

There is an episode of the TV show scrubs where a male character realises he enjoys having sex when his wife is annoyed with him so deliberately makes her angry in order to benefit from angry sex (not fucking in this context as its an early evening TV programme!)
The post that has kicked all this off simply said that an incredible hulk dildo would be used for angry fucking. Not that it would be used by a man angrily fucking a woman. It could be a woman angrily fucking c man, a woman angrily fucking another woman, a man angrily fucking another man, a goat angrily fucking a badger, a made-up marvel comic book character angrily fucking another made up marvel comic book character....
If you find the phrase offensive then fair enough. It contains a rude word and the suggestion that sex can be things other than lovey dovey and fluffy and either or both those things may upset people
But a gender neutral comment possibly suggesting sexual aggression but not commenting on the genders (or even species!) involved has become a feminist issue because it was posted on a predominantly female forum by someone with a male sounding user name
If you are allowed to be offended by the phrase angry fucking I am allowed to be offended by the sexism displayed by those of you who think a phrase which does not at any point say its about men v women is a feminist issue just because of who said it

SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood
"I'm going to fuck you/I enjoy fucking you" - I can't imagine that being said in anything other than a nasty way, ranging from slightly controlling to downright sinister.

I've certainly had both of the above said to me.
No, I'm not gay.
They were said by women, and certainly not in a nasty way.

Maybe it's an imagination issue.