maninism/mens rights!!

You had a disagreement about whether to use a push chair or a baby carrier, which led to you calling the police on her.

Is that the only incident of her putting him at 'risk'?

We are arseholes and bullies? Really? Remember OP when you point the finger there are 4 pointing back at you! I would sincerly love to hear your Xs pov in all this.

Respect has to be earned. We aren't your ex you know!

I think the law should be changed so that if a man has financial responsibility for a child then parental responsibility becomes automatic.
Usually it is the mother who is left with care and the current system appears to always exonerate the mother of any wrong doing.
I just feel that cases of seperation should be treated individually rather than having a 'one size fits all' solution.
I don't really see that making a man 'pay' for his child is a solution to fathers who do not want parental responsibility, yes I appreciate children can be expensive but I would not want my ex's money if someone had to take it from him. I'd prefer to do without, hold my head high and provide for them. I just think that money taints things.
I know of a situation, young couple not been together long. Woman has the implant, uses this to reassure partner about contraception, they had the 'child' conversation, he said he wasn't ready just yet, given the fact they had only been together a few months I think that is perfectly reasonable.
She then has implant removed without telling him, guess what, falls pregnant.
I think the man has the right to walk away from this situation.
I think a father should have a right to sign away all parental/financial responsibility in situations like this.
Maybe this would make women who do this think about their childs future, while than having the current cussion of 'well it's his kid and he's going to pay for it'.

It's just classic stuff, isn't it. "Bitch won't let me see my kids. Snot fair. I only kicked her in the head a couple of times and she was asking for it. All women are slags. Waaaa!"

"if you show me respect il show you respect".
No, you can and ought to be doing better than this.
And shout and rant at me all you want.

The world will not always be respectful to you.
What are you going to do about it?
Thump them?
Shout at them?
Is this what you plan to teach your son?

Remember, the internet is not so private as you think.

And if a person who knows you,reads this,it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they show it to people who you would not like to see it.
Or do you think the courts and other interested parties are going to think ok about this your thread?
My guess is that you still dont care.Because you are still angry.

it's not going too well is it, this thread, JT ?

most of your comments on it have been deleted for breaking talk guidelines

perhaps there is a lesson in there for you somewhere ?

jive my mother denied that I was my father's for 3 years then she wanted csa so she had a dna test done, to prove I was his so she could get money off him, of course my father wanted contact with me so for one and a half year's he got that contact, my father couldn't give me enough, which didn't sit well with my mother as she had another child and that child's father wanted nothing to do with him, and even though my father would take my sibling with us on day trips my mother felt that because my father would buy me clothes and gifts, this was unfair to my silbling and stopped my contact with him. She moved us out of the area then back again then to another area until I left home at sixteen, 2 years later, I got back in contact with my father and as my mother barely visited or had contact with me, I have built a very strong relationship with my father, he has never once said a bad word against my mother not once, my mother however has been as spiteful as you can get about my father in the past, not so much now as I know the truth, but she has been, i have no relationship now with my mother but i have a fantastic on with my father and his wife who also has never said a bad word against my mother. Children work these things out for themselves, sooner or later.

I missed the offensive posts.

Just think of words begingin with F and C, add them in any order and then finish with a sexist remark.

Is it just me or did he seem to have a strange reaction when solidgoldbrass posted? Almost like he was delighted being in the presence of a legend.

I very much doubt you have posted anything like the unhinged and frightening rant upthread peanut.

JiveTurkey, I just came back to see if any constructive point had been reached but it would appear not!

I know that sometimes life just makes you want to scream and lash out but you have to project it usefully or atleast privately, again I understand the rage and to be perfectly honest I've had my fair share of 'scraps' on this forum through misguided anger and that feeling of banging your head on a brick wall because people are attacking you left, right and centre... But you know what? Most of the time its because I'm putting my thoughts wrongly and not getting my point across.

Re-read your posts and think how you're coming across because it does seem very bitter towards women in general and some of you're comments are appaulling tbh!

But do I think that makes you an unfit parent who deserves to be kept away from his son? Hell no! It's your RL actions that matter, sometimes on here I sounds like a raving loon who shouldn't be left with a child and I've seen some others who do too.

ignore all the questions and snide comments, perhaps start a new thread, but I'd suggest you just go for it and write an honest account of why your ex left and what you've been doing since to help if that's what you want to do.

Hopefully you will get more help.

Bloody hell.

What was it she did that was selfish and put his health at risk OP?

I missed the offensive posts.

What have you done to try to get him back?
What reason does your ex give the courts to keep him from you?

I've read some angry things on here in my time but that post in the early hours of this morning is utterly vile.

Oh deary me! Jiveturkey I came back on here to see how you were doing but your posts have become terrifying!

You cannot speak to people like that. Imagine if the judges of your court case saw those posts calling people you disagree with "f&;ktards" and
"c?!nts"? What would they think of you as a potential role model for your son? I know that you are angry at life and the justice system and you are a young man who is incredibly frustrated but OP, this is not the way to go!

If you feel people are being undignified to you then rise above it, try to act with dignity yourself. Remember one day you will have your son with you and you need to show him what it means to be a cool rational human being.

If your behaviour on here is in any way reflective of how you treated your ex then I'm not surprised she doesn't want you to have contact.

You sound like quite a frightening, angry person who lacks self control. In other words, just the sort of person who shouldn't be anywhere near a baby.

I hope you feel calmer this morning.
Do you have any sensible,calm women in your life who could possibly help you with what may be a genuine case.
tbh, I am reluctant to read all your posts because of the ranting,and that is not what you really want is it?

You must always keep the end goal in mind?
What is the end goal?
Are you willing to change character,if necessary for the end goal?

If you have a lot of anger,and it seems you do,you need to find healthy ways to get rid of it.
Have a punch bag in your garage for example.
Go to the gym.
Take up running,whatever.
But get rid of it privately.

Ideally,you could post on here again,[not sure that feminism is the right place,because you are going to have lost the anger next time you post,right?],perhaps on "chat",as that is a fairly calm place,and talk about your rational ideas,and tbh, inform some of us about what goes on about this issue. I,for one,dont know much about all this stuff,and would personally like to read about it,maybe especially from a mans pov.
But,no anger. Once a poster starts being angry with another poster,they start to lose goodwill,and that is not what you really want ,is it.

Pretty obvious why she binned you, isn't it? Showing yourself up as an unhinged woman-hater is not the best way to help your case.

There are some good points made here on both sides.

But I am afraid,op,that you do not do your cause any favours by writing like this.
Because you look like you lack some self control.

If the courts were to see this post,do you really think they are now going to look more favourably at your case??

And that is a shame. But like rosabud says,how safe are you around your child?
For all I know you are probably perfectly safe,but by doing this sort of thing,and presumably loudly shouting your mouth off in public,you put doubts in poeples' minds. Which persumably is the opposite effect to what you really want??