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maninism/mens rights!!

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jiveturkey · 21/10/2012 00:12

why are good loving fathers not given equal rights, why are we forced to spend thousands and go through lengthy court battles for the right to be a father to our own children all because the mother is so selfish and self centered that she can decide to do this with no regard for her childs happiness and future well-being just because she can out of spite and nastiness towards her ex partner. Many thousands of men have not been allowed to see or speak to their children for weeks or years and many simply cannot afford to continue their legal pursuit and are forced to give up for this exact reason. And yet these women have the audacity to call them themselves mothers, its laughable they are barely human beings.
Fathers are EQUALY important as mothers yet the law and some women's attitudes do not seem to reflect this. I know of a man who did everything he could to be part of his childs life, paid 36,000 in csa payments and was forced to have little contact with that child,then 10 years after she was born, rumours came out that that child wasnt his, a dna test confirmed this! Her motive? GREED, it is an all to common story, so many "mums" do not even consider how keeping their childs father out of their lives affects them in the the short and long term without even mentioning its moraly wrong. Any mum who takes there children away from there dad. doesn't deserve the bloody title! OUR children is the only way you can hurt us, which is why you use them as weapons and pawns in your sick twisted games, so how about you grow up realise life is too short, and that your children's happiness is actually MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR OWN! you may have your children now when they are young but i promise you you'll lose them when they learn the truth they will NEVER forgive you for destroying their special relationship with their dad and ensuring they had a s**t childhood, and let that be on your conscience,not that you have one or a soul or a heart or brain.
So stop punishing your children let their dads have access to them as much as you do, that is called EQUALITY.
this rant is aimed at all the dead beat"mums", i realise and recognise that the majority of mums are amazing and do the right thing by their kids by letting their father play a prominent role in their lives, as it should be. And obviously not all dads are worthy of that title either but i'm not talking about them i have as much respect for them as i do for these women that my comments are directed at.
Il be here waiting for your comments i felt it necessary to voice these facts in the lion's den so to speak, we need to be heard, fathers NEED equal rights.

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SingingSilver · 26/10/2012 03:29

Oops, only just noticed this thread has 13 pages! I only read the first one, I assume the discussion has moved on, sorry if my contribution is irrelevant by now!

SingingSilver · 26/10/2012 03:25

It's a little bit difficult to have 'equal' parenting of a child, especially a baby. Is his mother breast feeding? How would you be able to provide that during your 3 and a half days of the week?

If you need to request a DNA test to move things forward then do it! Include a letter explaining that you are certain of your child's paternity, but that you have been informed it's the only way to legally progress and gain access to your child. And listen to your solicitor/the CAB, don't pay too much attention to fathers rights groups as they can tend to get too bogged down in the 'cause', and point scoring and reporting perceived injustices to each other, than actually getting on with the business of seeing their kids.

I know this because my ex loves wallowing in the martyrdom of being a 'denied father.' His parents don't speak to me (or our son) because of his lies. I have never reported him to the csa, I have offered him access whenever he likes, I have remained diplomatic and never bad-mouthed him in the presence of my son, but he just can't be bothered. He doesn't contact me from one month to the next to ask after his son. Not that he would tell people that. That wouldn't earn him any sympathetic shoulders to cry on... The only fly in his ointment is the fact that our son is getting older, and he's starting to put two and two together all by himself.

waltermittymissus · 25/10/2012 10:14

[hgrin]

solidgoldbrass · 25/10/2012 10:07

Perhaps.space.bar.defective.after.shoving.keyboard.up.troll's.ringpiece?
Sadly.no.such.luck.

waltermittymissus · 25/10/2012 08:47

SGB you didn't use it to repeatedly bash him over the head did you?

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 25/10/2012 07:44

Deleted for sock puppetry I assume - look carefully at the user name.

LordLurkin · 25/10/2012 00:36

Damn I missed his latest response.

Ah well if its another deleted one it cant have been much of note

FrothyDragon · 24/10/2012 23:53
solidgoldbrass · 24/10/2012 23:46

Oi,fucknugget!Have.you.not.had.enough.yet?You've.been.pwned.repeatedly.on.this.thread.so.give.it.up.and.go.play.with.yourself.elsewhere.

(Apologies.to.everyone.ELSE.but.my.space.bar.has.just.died.)

jiveturkeymk2 · 24/10/2012 23:33

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FrothyDragon · 24/10/2012 23:26

"Have you ever thought that actually, there are things men can teach children that possibly women can't?"

I did think that, once upon a time. But everything my mother et al claim a man would teach him, I've taught him myself...

Also, would you say an abusive father is better than no father? Really? REALLY?

"Or how it would affect them at school when they have to answer questions like, what do your PARENTS do for a living? And they don't even know their own fathers name, where he came from or who he is." My son know's his fathers name. He also knows that his family is no less of a family just because his father isn't on the scene.

HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 24/10/2012 23:22

was the other thread about how those pesky socks are always getting lost in the wash ?

or is it about to go poof because all is not as it seems ?

LineRunner · 24/10/2012 23:21

you shouldn't of laid on your back, and opened your legs in the first place

And this, this, is still the best that the Fathers For Convenience brigade can do?

kim147 · 24/10/2012 23:17

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AnyaKnowIt · 24/10/2012 23:14

And they don't even know their own fathers name, where he came from or who he is

Hahahahahahahahaha

HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 24/10/2012 23:11

hello there, TipsyTart

are you stripy or woolly ?

Tipsytart · 24/10/2012 23:07

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PosieParker · 24/10/2012 18:16

I like the law in the US: Where there is DV parental rights are taken.

digerd · 23/10/2012 17:56

Ah, now I've read more of the posts, he is married? Then, in law, it was, if not changed, assumed that the child was fathered by the husband, that was before DNA was discovered. So if a married man wants a DNA test he has to request one. If any of his post is true.

digerd · 23/10/2012 17:44

Then request a DNA test. I don't understand that the CSA can claim money from you if you are not named on the Birth Certificate. I also thought the mother could not refuse to take a DNA test, as it must be proved that you are the father before you are forced to pay.

seeker · 23/10/2012 17:43

Don't feed.......

LordLurkin · 23/10/2012 17:25

Not quite sure what you mean there Frans ?

That post could come across wrong to a few ppl. I think I might understand what you mean but not sure.

Frans1980 · 23/10/2012 17:18

"fathers" don't give a shit about their children

crackcrackcrak · 22/10/2012 12:28

Good example of mansplaining though Wink

waltermittymissus · 22/10/2012 10:28

My guess is he's a spotty teenager with an abundance of hormones and a literacy problem! :)

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