Is it really ok that some GPs can refuse to prescribe the MAP

it would make sense that it was standard, however i have been at a few surgeries and never seen it!

yes they have to refer you on, but that isnt always practical for many reasons and they personally are refusing to treat you, even if they dont say anything they are making a judgement and a woman will feel that.

as i said i will be asking my gp practise if any gps hold this view so i can avoid seeing them, i will be interested as to if they will tell me!

I suspect that the vast majority of practices don't have doctors who would object, hence they don't have the signs?

I'm really surprised 5madthings I've seen it in a few practices, and I thought it would be standard, makes perfect sense to me!

And really, they can't "refuse" they have to refer you to someone else.

prom, one of the GP's at my surgery has a sign saying they will give no advice on contraception and TOP

(doesn't mean I agree with it though)

Anita, it is the same at my surgery, to be fair

none of mine have ever done that anita they shoudl tho, well in relation to map/abortion. it was bad enough having to deal with the nurse who was vile to me for getting the map, the fact that we HAD used a condom and it had split didnt stop her from being awful about my need for the map and we had ds1 by that point as well, i am sure that made her more scathing actually, she obviously thought i was just a feckless and irresponsible.

given that i was 20, had a baby and was trying to finish my degree reporting her didnt occur to me and i assumed she was legally able to refuse in the same way they can with map/abortion. was a long time ago, so no idea if she is even still working, i am not using that surgery anymore. i did make sure never to see her again tho!

All the practices I've been registered at have always had a sign up that says 'please note: Drs. X,Y and Z do not provide contraceptive services'. Its always done discreetly but in a way that is very obvious you are better off getting a different doctor!

She would have been in trouble of you had reported her.

she didnt mention dangers she just said she morally objected on the grounds of it stopping implantation of an embryo and she said she woudl refuse the map etc as well. i think my reply was something like 'thanks for nothing' and then i made an app with family planning.

Prom, I have answered it already, and it is entirely unrelated to abortion.
Also, doctors train specifically to carry out vasectomies so most would refuse on the basis that they are not qualified (I hope!)

what counts as 'timely' tho?

i really think when you register with a gp you should be TOLD if any of them hold this view and then you can avoid seeing them, women should NOT be put in the position of having made an app and then having the treatment refused.

5madthings, then she was breaking the law and professional guidance (unless her objection was to do with the dangers of the older style of coil...?)

yes it was a female gp who refused to give me the coil and the nurse that gave me the map was female (again whilst at uni) and very scathing.

but i did wonder if there is a bias male/female, would be interesting to know.

Yes, they are, BUT they have to refer you on to another GP in a timely fashion.

They also can't refuse to do vasectomies, or refer for gender realignment.

Whether people agree or not, SOME people consider abortion to be killing and so to force people to do it/organise it is not exactly respectful of their own human rights.

I am pro-choice but the law is very clear on this and has been for over 40 years.

clemette after i had ds1 (at uni) i wanted the coil and the gp refused it on moral grounds actually, her words as she didnt agree with them. i never followed it up, i went to the family planning clinic instead!

the particular doctor at my surgery is female

prom, yes

but as I said upthread, they have to be able to refer to a colleague

the length of time and attention-seeking hassle that imparts though is the crux, perhaps

Doctors can't refuse to prescribe contraception unless it was medically contraindicated.

what if a woman was phoning from home and her abusive partner could hear her and she had told him she was getting an app for her sore throat for example? and she couldnt tell the receptionist? you shouldnt have to tell the receptionist anyway!