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So what ARE these differences between men and women?

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Lottapianos · 16/10/2012 13:17

Yes yes, I'm aware of several obvious differences for those of you sniggering at the back! Wink

On several threads recently I have seen posters talk about how men and women are different but equal and lots of reference to the 'inherent' or 'inbuilt' differences between men and women. I'm a bit mystified because as far as I'm aware, the only inherent
differences between men and women relate to anatomy, physical skills (speed and strength), getting pregnant, giving birth and breastfeeding.

What else do you consider an inbuilt, innate difference between men and women? Or feel free to agree with me that the only differences are biological and all other differences are socially constructed Smile

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MoreBeta · 16/10/2012 13:35

I have this theory about the way men and women shop.

Men know they need a pair of trousers, they decide they want 'black trousers' before they go, they go to the shops looking only for black trousers, they see some, buy them and go home. Women often go on 'shopping trips' with other women to 'browse' and come back with things that catch their eye. Its a social activity for women but for men it is purely utilitarian.

My theory is that the way men and women shop goes all the way back to hunter gatherer behaviour. Men went to kill a known animal. It was risky and once done you get back to cave ASAP. Women went in social groups to browse berries, plants, fungi.

MooncupGoddess · 16/10/2012 13:34

Do you have any references for that, googlyeyes? It sounds pretty dubious to me but I am not a neuroscientist!

HecateLarpo · 16/10/2012 13:30

Apparently men are supposed to have a better sense of direction. Again - finding your way back after time away hunting.

I really don't know how it's possible to prove any of it.

googlyeyes · 16/10/2012 13:30

Btw is it not fact that our brains are different? As in literally, biologically, objectively different? Women have more connections between the left and right hand sides of their brains, for example, hence find it easier to communicate and multi-task. And male brains are bigger. Not better, just bigger Smile

freerangelady · 16/10/2012 13:30

Physical strength. In our family farm my father and husband can just lift so much more than me.

MooncupGoddess · 16/10/2012 13:29

I read somewhere that men (as a class) have slightly better spatial/3D awareness than women (as a class), but that there is no good scientific evidence yet for any other differences. Of course it is hard to do research in this area because brains are plastic and respond to cultures and behaviours around them - so we would need to live in a culture with zero gender stereotypes to do any serious research on the issue.

It is very clear however that differences within sexes are much, much greater than differences between sexes.

Lottapianos · 16/10/2012 13:28

'Do you really feel that our brains are not inherently different? And that we evolved to have different strengths in order to help the development and progress of the human race?'

What sort of different strengths are you thinking of googlyeyes? No I really don't think our brains are inherently different based on our biological sex. I think there is huge variation between individual people but that it's not down to our sex.

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MsAnnTeak · 16/10/2012 13:26

Aren't females supposed to have better peripheral vision, or is that just a myth ?

googlyeyes · 16/10/2012 13:25

Do you really feel that our brains are not inherently different? And that we evolved to have different strengths in order to help the development and progress of the human race? Surely oestrogen and testosterone play their part in significant differences too.

Fwiw I don't believe gender can be used as an 'excuse' for a lot of negative behaviour typically attributed to either men or women but i do believe that the male brain and the female brain are different, and it's wonderful that they are. For example I did not feel attracted to DH just because of his different anatomy!

HecateLarpo · 16/10/2012 13:23

If you subscribe to the caveman theory then women are better at spotting stuff and that's the extent of my understanding. Women can spot berries and this translates into seeing dirt and stuff. Apparently. Women are more social cos of the staying in small groups while the men went off hunting. Men can, erm, something. hit a buffalo from half a mile away or something. Women can do more than one thing at a time better than men, are more communicative (same as social I suppose)

I don't know. I read about it once. No idea if it's got any merit.

InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream · 16/10/2012 13:21

They have willies and we have fanjos.

We carry babies for 9 month and have boobs.

We get hairier as we get older, they lose hair Grin