Am I the only Women who doesn't like to see a Women Doctor?

Erm I prefer female doctors for women's issues, but if its not female related no intimate examination then male docs r fine.

To be honest I've had problems with Asian docs I'm Asian myself. I still give them te benefit of doubt but most times I've been proven right they give me second rate treatment. I believe they think oh she Asian like me she won't put in a complaint, or get a second opinion.

Even recently I've been unwell for a long time, still am. there was a new doc Asian, I thought I an discriminate I felt so bad. Went to see her, she didn't look happy at my appearance, I wear full islamic clothing. But I was chatty, and I'm normally shy in public, I made a big effort. she didn't explain much, just told me to continue with the pain for another week even though the complain had lasted for a month since I had been discharged from hospital. I went for a second opinion doc was non Asian was a bit of an arrogant person which is funny coz he's usually my fave doc. He said Asian doc had seen me only 3 days ago I couldn't expect a recovery. I explained I was worried, and he carried out further blood tests. Point is I was right, I'm not well. They're still figuring out what it is.

So sorry but I dislike Asian docs with good reason. If I could I would say I'd like a white or black doctor only please,when I book an appointment, but I'd get done for racism.

To anyone with an open mind who is interested, look into the history of childbirth in the mid 20th century and the assumption that newborns don't feel pain which led to babies being operated on without anaesthetics as late as the 1980s.

Whatever I linked to to you find fault with. As it fits your preferred narrative.

"I'd much rather speak to a woman about a lump in my breast, or heavier than usual periods..."

That's the argument I don't get. I'd much rather speak to someone who is qualified to give advice, sex doesn't make a difference there. I wouldn't prefer an oncologist who's a cancer survivor over one who isn't, because his or her personal experience has zilch to do with the clinical aspects of treatments.

And I'd like to see some supporting evidence for the claim that "when medicine was male dominated it was all so bad for women". I wouldn't buy it just because it fits preferred narrative.

I had a female gyny in Germany and she was lovely, I had one in England a few years ago and she was very abrupt and officious. My GPs nurses are a "witches covern", and my sister-in-laws nurse is a right "battleaxe" with her. But don't think they are like that with the men. The male Dr. is lovely. But I would always want a female gyny. Didn't bother me when I was young, but now I am much older, and having a young man feeling my not at all perky boobs, made me feel terrible.

WW, what Frothy said and what I said on the previous page. When medicine was male dominated the attitude towards issues women's health issues was appalling. The more women involved at every level of the medical profession, the better the attitude towards women's health has become.

Request a to see a woman and more women get hired. Simple.

OP I think you were wrong to frame your question in terms of female doctors.

I think, you really wanted to ask, 'do women, once reaching positions of power, seek to continue their own empowerment by oppressing other women'.

This is an interesting question, but not one that can be answered by targeting one particular proffesion.

The patient-doctor relationship is unique in our society and I would be very surprised if anything other than a small minority of doctors (or either gender) sought to oppress patients.

Widow, I can't speak for the poster in question, but I suspect this may cover it:
"On top of that, requesting a female doctor can prove to a clinic that the demand for a female doctor is there, when it comes to recruiting. I'd much rather speak to a woman about a lump in my breast, or heavier than usual periods..."

Maybe. I don't give a shit, as long as they are good.

Blistory thank you for that really honest post, food for thought.

I didn't read Mini's OP as women want to go into medicine so they can oppress women, but that they tend to be unpleasant towards women once they are in positions.

I don't have a preference in general re doctors but I do prefer male gynecologists. Women gynecologists I have had experience with have been invariably quite brutal. This could be my luck - I have no intention of trying out more women gynecologists to find out.

Frothy - why not? She said before she became aware of feminism the sex of the people who treated her didn't matter to her. Now she actively seeks out women doctors. I don't understand this.

I understand women seeking out female doctors due to previous trauma, or being ashamed etc, even though this is not something I feel myself. But going from not bothered at all to only want to be treated by women because of some kind of feminist awakening strikes me as really odd.

Sorry the point to that post was, do I oppress women and the answer is that I don't deliberately but have done so in the past. The results were more respect by male partners so it would have been easier to continue on that path. Thank fuck for feminism.

Mini, I think I understand what you're saying and with some shame, admit that I may be guilty of acting like this at times. I'm not a doctor but work in a predominantly male industry.

I do find that it can be difficult to deviate from the standard male boss style of management and have to remind myself that it simply isn't my way of doing things. Women clients quite often express relief that they're seeing a women and I used to find that bolstering me and caused me to be a bit more sympathetic. Over time it gets harder to maintain that particularly when I'm under pressure from male partners to be more productive and less interested in the person behind the problem. The reality of my work means it is easier to put the emotion away and work on the actual problem. For a while, my heart sank when I saw my next client was a weeping woman as I knew that my partners would be thinking that I'd be off for another marathon counselling session and trying to fix all her problems. I suspect that on the occasions when I've gotten it badly wrong that I've been judged more harshly by those women simply because I am a woman and they expect me to have more empathy and compassion than a man.

I can see that there was a period where it was easier to fit in with the prevailing culture and copy that management style but feminism helped me see that I was letting everyone down with that approach. I still have to battle the corporate culture imposed by my partners who are all male but I also struggle with the attitude of female clients who expect a certain approach just because I'm female. Now I try to stick with what I'm comfortable with - if a client needs time and a holistic approach, I'll do that and if they simply need a pragmatic solution, they'll get that. I make a real effort to ensure that I manage staff the way I'm comfortable with and not the way that the practice has determined for so many years. But, it remains a daily challenge and I don't always get it right. A lot of it is to do with the fact that the business has been stricter by men in a way that suited their style and for years I didn't realise how much that affected every little aspect of the business.

The good news is simply that I'm aware of it and in four years, my remaining partners are due to retire. It will be interesting to see how this affects me and how I do business - in a way, I feel like I'll be set free. I genuinely don't know if that's a feminist perspective, a capitalist one or just arrogance. I certainly know that I still battle to put feminist principles in place in real life and hate that I contribute to it.

Rambling now........

donnie, thanks for all of your last post

I think for me the only thing about some women doctors is that can be more dismissive of feminine issues. I've had female doctors say to me, "I've had bad morning sickness and still worked, you'll be fine" (I was hospitalised a week later)

This isn't to say only women do this though, it's just the male doctors can't say it about period pain etc. I have had a male doctor tell me about his back pain though.

Essentially I find it's just best to avoid any doctor who
a) has been through something similar but less serious
b) likes to show off how martyred they are

Gender is only an issue when it comes to what they are physically capable of experiencing. Everything else is just individual personality flaws traits

I lost my daughter to cancer.

I guess my perspective is different, because I'd rather anything than leave my two surviving children with no mother due to gender preference. I had LEETZ treatment for abnormal cervical cells in 2001 and am now on 3-yearly smears. I wouldn't have cared if a competent martian were doing it, I didn't want to die of cervical cancer.

I just want the best person for the job. If they are not I will soon suss it out and get whoever is best for the job gone no matter if they are half-monkey or half-ape. And feminism and principles just don't play into it when you have cancer, IME.

You want it gone, gone, gone.

I don't see it as a feminist issue but a human issue, and I'm friends with a great many doctors of both genders, they're mostly there to do a job and help people.

I don't see medicine as a gender issue anymore, particularly when it comes to cancer. If I see a human being whom I feel is not acting best he or she can, for whatever reason I've determined, then I'll do my best to change doctors.

But honestly, what is worth your life or the life of those you love?

I can assure you, it's who the person is, not their gender.

I hope you never have to find this out in real life.

The medical establishment's attitude towards women has caused huge amounts of suffering for women. Drugs not tested on women so their pesky hormones can't mess up the results, hysterectomies performed at the drop of the hat without alternatives. Women told how they should be giving birth. Even now, how many drugs are developed aimed at treating issues that are solely experienced by women? Companies sunk billions into treating male sexual dysfunction. How much is channeled into investigating female libido?

I am more comfortable dealing with another woman. And, as Frothy said, if more women ask to be treated by women, more women get hired. Direct action.

I neither avoid nor seek out male or female doctors. For GPs I tend to prefer ones who have most recently finished their training, for specialists, if I have much choice, ones with the best statistical record for patients resembling me (not always easy to find). My experience has been of patronising and poor treatment, and engaging and great treatment by doctors of both sexes.

I don't discount the theory that members of oppressed groups can look for vulnerable people to oppress in order to give themselves a feeling of control and empowerment. But I don't see why women would particularly target the medical profession as doctors. Surely social work and even motherhood are just as good in terms of giving access to power over vulnerable people and much more accessible?

Nor, just because some women might do this, do I see why it would necessarily be a significant number given the high standing doctors general command.

I suspect that there have been studies that look at doctors' bedside manner and compare patient satisfaction rates for male and female doctors (as well as other classes). Maybe someone with access to academic journals could run a search?

WW, it's not sexist for a woman to choose to be treated by a woman.

Sorry, Mini. I don't think women become doctors to oppress other women. Or would you say that my gay doctor became a doctor to oppress other gays?

BTW, I choose to have a female doctor where possible, as I feel less likely to get written off as an "over-anxious mother" on issues relating to my son (genuine reference from a doctor when I took him to A & E after throwing up formula milk). Nor do I find myself forgotten if a female doctor knows about my own health issues; definitely found myself forgotten when I had a male doctor.

On top of that, requesting a female doctor can prove to a clinic that the demand for a female doctor is there, when it comes to recruiting. I'd much rather speak to a woman about a lump in my breast, or heavier than usual periods...

"Since becoming more aware of feminism, I now actively seek to be treated be women. "

So becoming aware of feminism made you sexist?

I used to be totally unfussed about who was treating me. Since becoming more aware of feminism, I now actively seek to be treated be women.

I feel the complete opposite of the OP - I avoid male doctors and was very distressed when I was in complications during labour with my son that the only doctor that night was male. My situation is different though as I was sexually assaulted over twenty years ago by a male GP. My female GP that I have now is wonderful - she is so easy to talk to and understands.