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DDs school has skirts only uniform for girls

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Mydogsleepsonthebed · 01/10/2012 08:35

And it's the board of governors meeting tomorrow night. (Normal state primary). I can't go but I want to right a stinking letter. Can you help? I'm a work but will check a lunch time.

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SavoyCabbage · 01/10/2012 09:50

There is a school next to me that has banned skirts and dresses in case anyone sees anyone's knickers.

meditrina · 01/10/2012 09:46

One thing to consider is how the children get to school - for if the school is encouraging cycling or walking (do they do "Walk on Wednesdays/ Walk once a Week?) then the practical issue of cold legs kicks in more strongly. (They might say "change on arrival" - pre-empt this by saying wearing to users removes the need for extra fuss at the busy times of pick up and drop off and fewer items to be lost).

Himalaya · 01/10/2012 09:41

I would agree - don't go for stinking as a first approach, but do go for official/formal (who have you raised it with before?)

You might want to reference the Department For Education Guidance here which doesn't specifically say anything about the skirts/trousers question but does give some principles that you can tie your argument to, to give it greater weight.

e.g.

"The DFE Guidance states that a school uniform plays a valuable role in contributing to the ethos of a school and setting an appropriate tone. It strongly encourages schools to have a uniform as it can instil pride; support positive behaviour and discipline; encourage identity with, and support for, school ethos; ensure pupils of all races and backgrounds feel welcome; protect children from social pressures to dress in a particular way; and nurture cohesion and promote good relations between different groups of pupils. Above all, many schools believe that school uniform supports effective teaching and learning."

In these kinds of cases of institutional inertia the trick is to make your approach appear absolutely reasonable, simple and low-risk for governors who have a hundred different things to think about and just want a quiet life.

I would emphasise the practical aspect for active play, and say that allowing girls to wear trousers (and also school uniform style shorts in the summer) would not undermine any of the DFE's aims, and would support some of them - ensuring pupils of all races and backgrounds feel welcome, supporting cohesion, and supporting a school ethos which (hopefully) does not impose arbitrary expectations about girls and boys.

You could perhaps reference other local schools that allow girls to wear trousers to show it is a no brainer.

I would not go too strong on the gender discrimination line, because some bright spark will no doubt say 'but then isn't it gender discrimination to say boys can't wear skirts?' (to which the logical answer is yes, but the practical answer is that the chance of one of them wanting to if no one mentions it is vanishingly small).

The governors will want to avoid making a decision that puts them at risk of making a load of other parents angry (e.g. deciding that to avoid gender discrimination everyone has to wear trousers), or ending up in the local paper as the school that allows boys to wear dresses. If you can present it as the option that puts them in no-risk of either of these, they should (if reasonable) go for it.

If they do not respond to this approach, then go for stinkiness, and photos in the local paper of sad girls with freezing knees etc...

LRDtheFeministDragon · 01/10/2012 09:13

I want to know the same things as meditrina. Is it that you're mainly bothered about the discrimination, or the fact that skirts aren't terribly practical (which people often point out on here).

I think I'd go for something like this [brackets for bits if other people are also writing in/discussing]:

Dear ///,

I want to raise a concern [add my perspective on the concerns] about the school uniform policy of skirts only for girls. I [we] feel that this policy discriminates on grounds of gender. Skirts are not practical when children are playing actively and I [we] worry that girls will feel less able to take part in games safely. I would like to ask the board of govenors to consider amending the uniform policy, to allow girls to wear trousers.

Yours,

[name]

That is fairly short and softly-softly; I'm sure other people can do better.

Mydogsleepsonthebed · 01/10/2012 09:10

I've raised it before verbally but nothing was ever done. So I want to make it a bit more formal. I have to go to work but I will be back I promise

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 01/10/2012 08:46

Personally I wouldnt go straight in with a stinking letter. You want to persuade them, rather tahn put their backs up. So perhaps a letters imply requesting that for girls the school uniform includes an option for trousers. You could also point out some of the benefits for girls of having this option, say it is unusual for a school not to offer this option these days, and say that you have spoken to a number of parents who agree with you. Then ask them to consider this at the meeting.

meditrina · 01/10/2012 08:40

Does it need to be stinking at this stage? Persuasion is usually more effective than argumentation, and presumably the aim here is to secure the change?

Has the issue been raised before? If so, in what terms and what was the response then? Are you writing as an individual, or representing a number of parents, or are a number of parents writing as individuals as well?

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