Women subsumed into their children

Maybe you could appreciate that not everyone shares the same life plan, though? And the fact that they don't have the same life as you is not because they have failed to achieve their plan, but that they wanted something rather different (and, dare I say it, more varied and exciting )?

FGS Xenia can't you appreciate that there may have been an element of luck or good fortune in the way things turned out for you ? Even if that's the good fortune of being born with your skills and abilities ?

Not everyone can own an island off Panama you know !

You might try being thankful for all the good things you have, and even more to the point, try to show some empathy for others ?

I've always had the plan - uni,career,kids
and fortunately with hard work it went to plan
I love working. I love being parent

Thank you Juggling!

You seem a very wise young woman Lurking and Learning - coming on here before you have your own kids and thinking about future possibilities whilst learning from others - you'll go far young lady

When I was younger all I wanted was a husband and children, but I had a horrible childhood and now I'm not even sure I want to get married! Definitely want children though, without question.

I don't think you can really assume most young teens actually know what they want out of life, most of us struggle enough when deciding what courses at uni to apply for!

Even now, my options are consistently changing and I'm learning more and more about myself, my strengths and weaknesses, and what I want to do with my life.

I really wanted to settle down and have children as well

I do have a degree mind, but as xenia will let you know I have let down the motherhood by becoming a carer for my severely disabled daughter

She had quite a happy homelife from what I remember, we were all just a bit in shock as it was her sole ambition.

I know bring up happy well-balanced children is a great achievement, I've effectively put my career on hold to do so, but even at 17/18 we all knew that's only one part of being a grown-up woman.

Yeh, I agree nailak ...

Having a baby is an awesome thing to be able to do.

I got to do it all twice !

Seeing them grow up is another great blessing.

There's a lot to be said for seeing the miraculous in everyday life.

Having simple ambitions and being content with a simple life all good too ?

I do have other ambitions and other achievements, but they (my DC's) will always be my crowning glory ( I think watching the paralympics tonight has brought out my emotional side )

what is wrong with having an ambition to be a housewife and mother? if thats what makes you happy?

I had a friend who thought like that in 6th form, for a variety of reasons.

Now she's older she doesn't.

When I was in 6th form my sole ambition was to be a rock star (despite not being able to sing or play an instrument)

I wouldn't give too much weight to what people think they want their life to be like at that age.

jammysplodger
well if you knew one girl in 6th form, it's just bound to be a national epidemic. No wonder they are writing articles about it.

That can sometimes happen if the girl has had an unhappy homelife,and wants a child quite quickly, someone to love,and to love her back.

The sole ambition of one of my classmates in sixth form was to become and housewife & mother after she finished her exams. Never quite sure if she did but it was met with stony silence followed by 'you what???' by all on the school bus.

if I met someone who identified as mum only
I'd think they had limited range and/or interests
same as if one identified only as job title

I dont know any mums that only identify as a mother.
I know a couple who are getting scarily close to this - but they aren't on FB . I hope imagine they will come right eventually.

I dont know any mums that only identify as a mother.Just because they sometimes choose a photo of their children as a profile pic doesnt mean anything.

I have never seen a facebook profile with just pics of children/statuses about the children.

Middle paragraph Xenia - the one about some women hating their appearance in pictures so much they don't post any and whether that's a feminist issue.

14 people have posted about him online, jeez. I don't presume he talks to them about social media etiquette though we have to sign something at work to say we will not discuss work matters on line and all sorts of shit. It doesn't stop stuff happening though. One of our managers was signed off sick and posted on his facebook he was in Ibiza and cvame back to a disciplinary hearing

A really hot close family friend of ours is a contractor. He's been through 14 apprentices in the past two years! Fourteen!!!

Because he's smart. You see, some people are stupid enough to post on their FB that their boss is a fucking idiot. Facepalm

It's great when technology works in a positive manner to help someone vulnerable be able to confide and change something. I just worry about the level of arguing and offence taken at seemingly innocuous things, mind you i don't use it anyway

Some peope (well, in my age group) actually reveal quite a lot about themselves on FB. It's amazing what information they'll post...

That aside, you can read a lot into what people have written, which is what makes it predominantly bad. Sometimes it's a good thing. A friend of mine was worried her friend was suffering from Depression but it was dismissed as 'teen angst.' This girl admitted through private messages to my friend she was being abused by her father (hence the dismissal I'm guessing) friend went straight to police and her mother.

Just like MN, some people use Facebook as a way to communicate things they don't want to discuss in 'real life.' Oddly, a lot of people I know will only have Deep and Meaningful discussions with very close mates over technology.