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Just feeling really angry at all the murder, assault, rape of females that goes on

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BornStroppy · 11/08/2012 08:05

I told my husband how horrible it is being part of a gender that is constantly attacked, murdered, etc. He had never thought about it. He doesn´t need to. So we have Tia Sharp, the lady who disappeard in London, an old lady in Scotland murdered by son´s friend, another one murdered in a taxi in Birmingham - this is just over two weeks.

I have one son, pregnant again and just hope its another boy to be honest.

Why is it OK? Apart from raising gentlemen, what the hell can we do? As a gender, we give birth, nurture, raise, care for them, and as a gender we are the ones who suffer at their hands.

its so depressing.

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AnyFucker · 15/08/2012 00:00

take it up with HQ if you don't agree, PM

there's plenty of ways to "contact mumsnet"

one of the best ways, of course, is to attract their attention by repeatedly making posts that contravene guidelines

AnyFucker · 14/08/2012 23:59

why would that be, changlinz ?

and why would that be an excuse ?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/08/2012 23:59

MNHQ are not on this thread, I believe they are drinking wine (and gin) elsewhere. Being sensible souls.

You guys do know it's them who delete stuff, right?

pornmonkey · 14/08/2012 23:57

Probably, they seem quite sensitive souls, too quick to censor for a message board Sad

Changlingz · 14/08/2012 23:56

Well maybe he's been drinking wine, and maybe so have a few others.

AnyFucker · 14/08/2012 23:48

not yet

Changlingz · 14/08/2012 23:46

Has he been banned?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/08/2012 23:43

I don't see what this has to do with parenting, except I suppose in that it's great to bring up children who don't believe all the trivializing horseshit about violence against women.

AnyFucker · 14/08/2012 23:41

oh dear, is meow having his parenting aspirations squashed now ?

funnily enough, most of us think such attitudes have no place on a parenting site, and thankfully HQ agree

Changlingz · 14/08/2012 23:38

Remember Chairman this isn't a parenting site no matter what it says.

chibi · 14/08/2012 22:43

making jokes about women hating isn't funny, it's gross, and people who do this are failing to meet the minimum standards of human decency

AnyFucker · 14/08/2012 22:40

meow has had a few "clean slates" now

I would imagine he is rapidly running out of them

amillionyears · 14/08/2012 21:57

yes peoples,posters on MN should be very careful and accurate what they write.
Try and start tomorrow with a clean slate.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/08/2012 21:56

Not funny, meow, knock it off.

Glad you're ok, plenty.

peoplesrepublicofmeow · 14/08/2012 21:54

ok, i do like to blame victims
and actually, i just hate women, damn, how did you find me out?

amillionyears · 14/08/2012 21:51

peoples,are you expecting everyone not to take your words literally?
I take care in what I post,as I realise that some posters are vulnerable,and because I do want my words to be taken literally actually.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 14/08/2012 21:50

Thanks, I'm ok Smile

I think anger is a healthy response though and chanelled wisely it's a potent force for change.

chibi · 14/08/2012 21:40

and thank you plenty for reminding us that for most of recorded history, and in most of the world now, the idea that women generally get to choose their partner and who they have children with is just flat out wrong

chibi · 14/08/2012 21:39

primeval women clearly favoured dumbasses given the number of them around...

LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/08/2012 21:39

That's true plenty. Sad

Hope you are ok.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 14/08/2012 21:38

Is this a good moment to stop and remember the huge numbers of women around the world who have no choice in who their 'partner' is? The women who are traded for dowries and family connections, the women who are trafficked into prostitution, passed around gangs, held practically hostage by abusive partners, raped in wartime, raped by people they thought they could trust ( (((hugs))) and Thanks for anybody going through this at the moment - there have been a couple of threads that have moved me to tears on here in the last couple of days) ...

In the face of what actually goes on, and what has gone on for as long as we have records for, across most of the planet, to say women are responsible for men's violence because of the way we choose men is outrageously crass and victim-blaming on a global scale.

Thanks MNHQ for deleting that post.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/08/2012 21:22

I still don't find it clear, to be honest, so maybe it wasn't as clear as you thought?

This whole thread seems to be covering some dubious territory (apologies to the OP, who obviously didn't start it to do that at all!)

Saying that violence against women happens because of 'something we do as a species' makes it worse, not better, IMO.

Btw, suggesting people shouldn't take your words 'litteraly' makes no sense. Of course people will take you literally - if you're speaking in metaphors I have no idea what those metaphors would be? Confused

peoplesrepublicofmeow · 14/08/2012 21:15

i made it quite clear i wasnt blaming women after i said that, so taken out of context yes, i could have been talking about any sort of violence, domestic violence, rape even.
read it properly and you will see i was talking about evolution and sexual selection.

the sentence after that i said "i'm not blaming women for this, it's sexual selection and something we do as a species"

in fact if pimevil woman haddnt have favoured the stronger men the human race would probobly be alot less successful than it is. in the same way as primievil man would have favoured the healthyest women.

however. maybe i should have made myself even more clear than i did, but really, do we all have to walk on eggshells incase someone takes your words litteraly or out of context?

TheDoctrineOfEnnis · 14/08/2012 20:24

Meow your deleted post said I'm sorry but the way women choose men encourages male violence. Do you really not see that statement at least partially blames someone other than the perpetrator of the violence for that violence, in a similar way to certain rape myths? That is the only post of yours I have been talking about, which began as a suggestion as to why it might have been deleted.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 14/08/2012 20:10

Of course I reported it. As I imagine did many others. The point is, I have no power to make them delete things so it's a bit silly to blame me for it.

The irony of shifted blame here is beginning to get to me, now.

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