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Just feeling really angry at all the murder, assault, rape of females that goes on

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BornStroppy · 11/08/2012 08:05

I told my husband how horrible it is being part of a gender that is constantly attacked, murdered, etc. He had never thought about it. He doesn´t need to. So we have Tia Sharp, the lady who disappeard in London, an old lady in Scotland murdered by son´s friend, another one murdered in a taxi in Birmingham - this is just over two weeks.

I have one son, pregnant again and just hope its another boy to be honest.

Why is it OK? Apart from raising gentlemen, what the hell can we do? As a gender, we give birth, nurture, raise, care for them, and as a gender we are the ones who suffer at their hands.

its so depressing.

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CardgamesFTW · 11/08/2012 11:32

Yes OP, it so horrible. It's like being stuck in a nightmare world but the news are real.

We aren't even supposed to acknowledge the problem, but we must.

Agree with SGM and Artex's posts.

pornmonkey · 11/08/2012 11:25

keep digging...Sad

StewieGriffinsMom · 11/08/2012 10:30

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Whatmeworry · 11/08/2012 09:52

Those aren't sweeping generalistions. The vast majority of violent crime is by men. The vast majority of the victims of violent crime are women and children

In the real world the vast majority of violent crime is by young disaffected men, the vast majority of victims are men.

I also get fed up with this continual "women as helpless victim" ideology.

pornmonkey · 11/08/2012 09:50

StewieGriffinsMom Sat 11-Aug-12 08:48:27
Those aren't sweeping generalistions. The vast majority of violent crime is by men. The vast majority of the victims of violent crime are women and children.

I'm pretty sure that 2nd sentence is wrong and actually the vast majority of victims of violent crime are men. Maybe you were thinking of domestic violence?

Himalaya · 11/08/2012 09:39

Men are both more likely to be the perpetrators AND the victims of violent crime, so it isnt accurate to say that women are the gender that is "constantly attacked, murdered etc..".

Over three quarters of murder victims are male (US stats, but similar in Europe i think) and men are more likely to be victims of all kinds of violent crime.

Women are more likely to be the victims of domestic violence and sexual violence. This is something to be angry about I agree.

But the idea that women should see themselves as the victim class is not accurate or helpful.

We should bring our sons up to be gentlemen and our daughters up to know that no one has the right to hurt them. But statistically our sons are more likely to be the victims of violence, so we also do need to think about that.

I think the women-as-victims idea as often ends up making girls fearful (e.g. Of walking out at night) rather than protects them.

TheDoctrineOfEnnis · 11/08/2012 08:56

I agree, it is horrible. I am very aware of trying to raise the DSes to respect their bodies and other people's. I'm starting there and will continue to work on it as they get older.

ArtexMonkey · 11/08/2012 08:53

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StewieGriffinsMom · 11/08/2012 08:48

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