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"Eve did not have a separate function apart from Adam...see this insidious blog post about saving Christian women from work

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DillyTante · 09/08/2012 21:34

"Eve did not have a separate function apart from Adam. Eve's function was defined perfectly in terms of Adam's function. When we understand what Adam was doing then we can understand why Eve was created...The purpose that God had in bringing Eve out of the side of Adam was so Adam would have a helper for his job, for his vocation...not a separate vocation of her own."

This from a speech in a blog post linked by excellent blogger Gloss Watch glosswatch.com/2012/08/09/bigging-up-the-office-in-the-name-of-choice/

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/08/2012 13:41

'owned by'?

That's, um, revolting.

Portofino · 10/08/2012 12:55

Someone linked to Netmums yesterday and someone had a ticker with a pic of her dh/dp and the comment "Owned by xxx for 2 year 3 months" I was tempted to sign up just to give her a piece of my mind.

ethelb · 10/08/2012 12:39

these people are nuts. check out the bride in training part.

time-warp-wife.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/home-maintenance-schedule.html

Though they must have v clean houses.

LastMangoInParis · 10/08/2012 12:29

Adam's little helper, Santa's little helper - meh.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/08/2012 10:18

Yes, absolutely, the language is really problematic.

Especially this almost ecstatic 'oh, I'm so special' language women are using about themselves.

I know people who argue with complete seriousness that Christ was made man, and therefore a woman can never be the icon, or likeness, of Christ. Isn't that horrible?

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DillyTante · 10/08/2012 10:12

More from Pastor Bacon

"Whatever we do, work hard and do it with our children around us Dads. If they don't get it from Dad, they'll get it from Mom and while that's good, it's second best. Subliminally children are learning that Christianity is woman's work. This is wrong. 'Men' pick up the bible! 'Men' go to war for Christ! This is how we are going to become the head and not the tail of the nations. This is how we are going to tear down the strong holds in our nations."

Pastor Bacon quotes his father, "Men that know how, will always have a job, men that know why, will always be the boss."

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DillyTante · 10/08/2012 10:05

And the language is just so awful, Princess, hero, rescuer. And one of the tags is Manhood. And it says on her exit interview notes "New Employer" with her husband's name. I just can't believe these communities exist. But I suppose if you get enough of these people together they all just confirm each others' beliefs like LRD said.

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DillyTante · 10/08/2012 09:56

I know, it's awful. As are the comments, e.g. The stay-at-home-daughter. It starts in childhood.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/08/2012 09:22

I know what you're saying, but the sad thing is, some people are properly, deeply committed to this stuff, and live or socialize with other people who reinforce those beliefs. It's systematized abuse of women dressed up as a belief, IMO.

samandi · 10/08/2012 09:18

God those people are freaks!

I'd quite like a little helper too, perhaps I should write a book making up some stuff about how God said I should have one.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 09/08/2012 22:32

Oh, yes.

I know a lovely woman I studied with who believes this sort of thing. I respect her and feel affectionate towards her but it makes me really sad that she is such a wonderful, intelligent, warm person who is being made less than she is by this sort of stuff.

StewieGriffinsMom · 09/08/2012 21:57

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TheMysteryCat · 09/08/2012 21:46

Eve was made from Adam's rib after a previous attempt by God when he made Lilith equal to Adam. Lilith refused to lie underneath Adam, called God and told him so and then departed Eden to go breed demons in the Red Sea...

Twas only then that God thought he might create a subservient woman and was nowt to do with work.

Selective Christianity really tweaks my angry bones.

Really like the GlossWatch blog though.

StewieGriffinsMom · 09/08/2012 21:37

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