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Positives and negatives of the Olympics.

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kickassangel · 29/07/2012 16:02

Hopefully a fairly light hearted thread but thought we could keep a tally of the plus and minus sides of the Olympics.

Plus
Women from Saudi, and more women from other Middle Eastern States.
Women included in the military flag bearers
Future sports people fairly even m/f balance (and their sponsors)

Minus
Still more events for men than women
Still more men taking part, and given better status/accommodations etc
Women carrying the country names, and the bowl things during the parade.
Mainly women nurses with the children on beds.
Paul McCartney getting the 'men' to sing first and the 'girls' to have a go second.

I was hoping that I'd noticed some more positives, but apparently not.

What did other people notice?

OP posts:
WidowWadman · 05/08/2012 22:59

I really liked it that Joanna Rowsell did not rush to put a wig on for the podium, but seems comfortable with her baldness. And why shouldn't she be, she's gorgeous with and without hair.

Solnushka · 05/08/2012 21:10

They keep calling Enis 'the world's best all round athlete'. Not 'female athlete' just 'athlete'.

messyisthenewtidy · 05/08/2012 20:23

Me too, I like the pink. And the posies Thanks.

The Olympics has started to inspire me already. Normally am such a lazy munter, but went out for a Jess-inspired jog this morning. Only got to the bottom of the road and back, but that is much further than I normally get!! Grin

TheDoctrineOfEnnis · 05/08/2012 19:25

NameGames, I was thinking that too about the pink!

vezzie · 05/08/2012 15:33

PS I am enjoying thinking about thrilled little girls up and down the country running as fast as they can pretending to be Jessica Ennis, and knowing they are emulating the country's most exciting person and not some also-ran

vezzie · 05/08/2012 15:28

Seemed to me yesterday (as a dilettante follower, so this may not be correct) that amid all the joyful coverage of 3 GB golds yesterday, there was a huge emphasis on and precedence of Ennis. Brilliant. No sense at all of "just a women's event" - none of that in sight. Well done Ennis and spot on all the excited and congratulatory reporting!

NameGames · 05/08/2012 14:05

Amoung all the fantastic examples of female strength, speed and sportswomanship, I rather like that pink is a big brand colour for London2012 without it being sidelined as a women's colour.

LeeCoakley · 05/08/2012 12:40

Ah ok. So hasn't competed yet.

RumbleGreen · 05/08/2012 12:37

I think you are talking about semenya (not sure on spelling) she is a middle distance runner.

LeeCoakley · 05/08/2012 12:32

Has the woman considered a 'man' in many people's eyes competed yet? I can't remember her name so don't know what events to look out for. Hopefully there won't be negative comments if she wins.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid · 05/08/2012 12:29

"non-woman" - genuine lol there, yellowraincoat.

Lots of tears here too and big happy :)s

yellowraincoat · 04/08/2012 22:33

Love seeing all the women hugging each other, even those who're competing against each other. They seem to have so much respect for each other and that is just beautiful to see.

There was a great shot of Jessica Ennis's mum dancing when her daughter won. Really nice.

Also honourable mention to non-woman Mo Farah who just seemed so over-joyed to have won a gold - seems a really genuinely nice guy.

This Olympics is really restoring my faith in humanity.

And I've done many happy emotional tears.

LastMangoInParis · 04/08/2012 21:57
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LemonOCOGTurd · 04/08/2012 21:47

I was just watching the women's medley relay final in the pool. Team GB made the final but didn't get a medal.

Sharron Davis interviewed them straight after the race, they had their arms around each other and you could tell there was so much team spirit and unity there.

Contrary to the Patriarchy's popular belief, women can work and compete together without any cattiness and rivalry! Angry

One of the swimmers started crying, Sharron started crying too and they hugged! It was a really genuine, warm moment of solidarity and women supporting women. Smile

Then I caught the news about Jessica! Grin

TheDoctrineOfEnnis · 04/08/2012 21:37

Jesssssss!

TheDoctrineOfEnnis · 04/08/2012 18:07

Also - I like Gabby's hair

TheDoctrineOfEnnis · 04/08/2012 18:06

What??!! LRD that is just wow!!!

LurkingAndLearningLovesCats · 04/08/2012 14:18

Positive: Watching the Olympics now, our commentators have been absolutely gushing over the strength and 'sheer power' (quote!) of the high jumpers!

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/08/2012 14:05

It's strange to see a 'Gabby Logan' praised here! Grin

But yes, good attitude from Jones and also from her coach, who sounds very keen to say that sex is a non-issue. The GB men and women train together, too which is interesting - I wonder of how many sports that's true?

yellowraincoat · 04/08/2012 13:52

That's shocking, LRD. Good attitude from Natasha Jones though.

Another positive - Gabby Logan who presents the round-up programme at the end of each day. Very knowledgeable, very respectful of the athletes who come in to speak, really great presenter.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/08/2012 13:46

Right, another positive and negative, and sorry, it's from an article again.

Positive: Natasha Jones quoted as saying: "It's a male-dominated sport and some people just don't want women in it, simple as ? We're here to change that perception. We are the boxers ? not the women boxers, we are just the boxers."

Nice.

Negative: Women's boxing was banned until 1996, because .... 'The British Boxing Board of Control (BBBC) denied women a licence to fight until 1998 on the grounds that premenstrual syndrome made them too unstable to box.'

WTF? Shock

Source: www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/03/women-boxers-first-olympic-bouts

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/08/2012 13:30

I know what you mean, yellow.

I'm sure people have seen this article, but a couple of statistics stood out for me:

'Outside the Olympics, only 5% of media coverage is dedicated to female sports, the vast majority of it tennis. A 2011 study also showed that women's sport received just 0.5% of all UK sports sponsorship, with 61% going to men and the remainder to teams.'

It's from here: www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/04/london-2012-women-beat-men-medals

yellowraincoat · 04/08/2012 13:20

Yes, it's true LRD , it's great to see all these different body shapes which are all taken as equal because they are ideal for their purpose.

I think I just feel bad for VP as she seems to be spoken about so much as a woman/an emotional wreck/for her relationship/body rather than as a sportswoman. Her victory in the keirin was simply breath-taking, a feat better than any other I've seen so far in these games. The BBC were in awe, but on here, there's negative commentary about how she chooses to present herself and it seems totally ass-backward to me.

The woman is an utter legend, she is simply an amazing cyclist who is doing stuff that no other cyclist has done on the track.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/08/2012 13:15

I've seen some horrible comments in the Daily Mail, but I agree, CiF is awful.

I think I'm a bit 'meh' about what VP says, but, yes, it's fantastic she's there.

In a way, I think it's probably quite good that there are women getting to this amazing level who are not all the same in their attitudes, even if I personally would probably disagree with them if we ended up chatting as we're chatting on here ... does that make sense? I mean, we could sit down and debate about things all day but I like that there's such a wide and representative range of attitudes within the women athletes.

Same as with their bodies - I have really enjoyed seeing women who are tall and broad-shouldered looking fantastic, fit and healthy, because it's good to get away from the stereotype that healthy women all have to look like the special K advert.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid · 04/08/2012 12:57

Well I agree with that bit about Bradley, yellow :), and also with LRD - that women's achievements are on the front pages daily at the moment. A great positive.

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