Schools denying girls the cervical cancer jab on religious grounds

Poor you. I did my Maths degree a few years ago and I remember how hard it was.

Oh. My. God.

"millions MORE women and girls than are being affected by this piddling religious nonsense."

Yes - millions more women and girls are affected by the global rollout of HPV vaccine that those attending these schools with this issue

How. Hard. Is. This. To. Understand. For the third, fourth time?

Which bit of that is not true?? I look forward to your response.

Yes, plainly we are interested in the BIGGER issue of millions of women and the global rollout. Or this conversation would not be happening in this way.

I'm getting a little concerned here - these things are neither false nor complicated nor difficult to understand.

Still waiting for your responses on the substantive issues.

And now I am going to go and do my maths homework for a bit
And listen to my fully vaccinated young children playing happily upstairs

I mean really I'm not about to engage with people who come to the feminist section of mn and say openly that they don't care about this stuff.

it's ridiculous.
you are all just after a fight.
the thread title was like a klaxon to the anti-vac bunch.
You have driven all the other posters away.
Stated that you do not care about pretty fundamental stuff affecting girls.
It's just annoying and pathetic.

accuracy you have said this:

"And just to put the lid on it - millions MORE women and girls than are being affected by this piddling religious nonsense."

and you have said this

"Plainly it's not of interest or we'd be talking about it, by the way." - in response to "I am trying to discuss, on the feminist section of MN, whether girls in religious schools in the UK should be "opted out" en masse from anything that goes against the "ethos". However it seems that conversation is not going to happen and the FACT that girls are being denied all sorts of things at religious schools is not of interest to most on here"

So you really have nailed your colours to the mast there.
I also wonder how your friends feel about you stating that none of them have any interest in the issue of religion in schools in the UK and what it can mean.

I agree - shouldn't you address the arguments presented to you instead of saying I don't like your friends so I'm not going to?

"Be careful who you ally yourself with"
Oh don't be such an arse

This is what you offer up instead of a substantive response and an interest in informing yourself about women's health.

"You say that you are not interested in the treatment of girls in some religious schools in the UK"

this for example is a complete lie

a. I didn't say it and
b. why would I - it's not true

Are you actually going to respond to any of these substantive issues?

"And remind me again how much you care about the impact of religion on girls again?"

Remind you again? I've never told you as you well know, unless you're being deliberately obtuse, which I can't believe

Remind me again - what do you know about Cervarix - aout Diane Harper - about safety trials - about damaged girls - about the PCT responsibility for immmunisation?

Yes I think some of them do feel that way.
I understand their reasons.
make sure you understand who you are aligning with.

And remind me again how much you care about the impact of religion on girls again? Oh yes, NO INTEREST.

Oh Sardine we're being demanding again, are we?

Tell you what.

You respond to my questions then I'll respond to yet another of yours.

"one of my cohort"?! are you for real?

I should imagine a number of your "cohort" would like to see all women refusing to live with all men but you know, I won't hold it against you

Remind me again

"How can this statement:

"pupils follow strict Christian principles, marry within their own community and do not practise sex outside marriage".

From a SCHOOL not worry people? I find it baffling.
What do YOU think they are teaching these girls about relationships, contraception, abortion, about their rights? "

Is the above of any interest to you?

Be careful who you ally yourself with.

And try and have a little interest in the plight of women and girls around the world, including in the UK, because of religion.

Really? What do you know about the safety trials of Cervarix?

You know one of your cohort is against all vaccinations of any kind, I assume?

I know about the issues.
i have discussed them at length on MN with people on thsi thread, many times. I have read the links and talked and talked and talked.
I have no desire to engage on the topic here.
the thread is not about that.

How can this statement:

"pupils follow strict Christian principles, marry within their own community and do not practise sex outside marriage".

From a SCHOOL not worry people? I find it baffling.
What do YOU think they are teaching these girls about relationships, contraception, abortion, about their rights?

Oh I forgot it's of no interest to you.

Yes it is - threads evolve - it's not up to you what people post.

I've pointed out a far more serious feminist issue which you REFUSE to inform yourself about. Point blank refuse. Well done.

I am not engaging with anti-vac people
This thread is not about that
It is about religious schools opting out of national programs
It's a scandal

And YOU don't care.

"I am aggressive"?

hahahahaha

HPV vaccine is a far greater feminist issue than you can imagine, Sardine. And you don't care.