Toilets

Yes, Pubes, men pee sitting down in Germany. Some other northern countries too. Bloody right as well, it's minging to pee standing up, goes everywhere.

I also wonder what other women do in the toilet. I KNOW they are taking way longer than me, people remark on my speed in toilet situations.

But loads of women have weak bladders! Women with weak bladders buy products while men apparently just piss up the nearest vertical surface

Is it Germany where the done thing for men is to piss sitting down?

Rosabud, what were you reading? Sounds interesting.

Hmm re this peeing in the street. Having been confronted by men peeing in the street on occasions (yukkity yuk) I concluded a long time ago that men have weak bladders. But if they queue in other countries maybe it is only British men. However, I have seen peeing men in France, Italy and Spain, so maybe American men have a valve on the their wotsit or something....

Also it's the law that Mum takes the DCs to the loo, slowing the whole thing down still further.

I only have DDs and DH has never once taken them into the men's.

Don't think he ever took them out on his own, before they were old enough to sort themselves.

Are the Fathers of DS any better, because you get plenty of small boys in the ladies at weekends when dads are probably about.

About the peeing in the street...

I used to go to a lot of gigs, and I've seen a lot of bands outside the uk along the way.

In the Uk, guys will use any side hoarding to piss up at a festival. I've seen them pissing inside the main hall at small indoor venues (Liverpool I'm looking at you).

But then you go outside the Uk, and strange things start to happen. Like men queuing for the toilet, and indeed having a queue longer than the ladies. Where was this magic? The good ole' USA.

I do have to say that British men do seem to have a below par level of correct toilet etiquette. I definitely think the acceptability of pissing in the street is a taught and cultural thing - probably underpinned with how dimly the authorities view it.

SardineQueen! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who's been sitting in a toilet thinking that if they'd just offset the toilet a bit rather than plonking it in the middle there'd be room for the sanitary bin as well..

Mind you, I think it's just generally bad cubicle design, not necessarily bad and sexist - I've also been in plenty where the toilet roll dispenser sticks out so far you have to do a wiggle manoeuvre to get up and sit down.

axure

"You must have read enough poo threads here..."

I haven't read any 'poo threads' here at all, alas, it would appear I've missed out on some cracking reads.

"...to know that polite ladies put some paper in the pan first to muffle the 'plop' and immediately flush to mimimise any unpleasant odour. Men don't seem to see the need for such niceties."

Well I like my bowel movements to have as small a carbon footprint as possible. Couldn't be doing with going for a crap and having to fret about the number of polar bear cubs last night's curry is about to kill. I'm glad your male colleagues appear equally environmentally aware.

That aside, how do you know women flush faster? Do you break out the stopwatch and clipboard during your lunchbreak? Little wonder the blokes are grunting with effort if they know they're in a race. Although it?s a touch cruel to using their socially conditioned competitiveness against them in such a fashion. Surely there's a more humane way of striking back at the patriarchy that doesn't involve inducing hernias in your workplace's male office staff?

SardineQueen

^"2. men don't generally shit in public conveniences"
"I think a lot of women do some complex hovering manoeuvres"
"surprised I need to explain these basic facts TBH! "^

"Basic facts" that you?ve ascertained how, precisely?

surprised I need to explain these basic facts TBH!

It was semi tongue in cheek, but I have seen women take bloody ages while I'm next in ine and hopping.

complex hovering manoevres

The mind boggles :o

True, you might have to arrest a few street pissers before the message sinks in.

You might well end up with much more pissing on teh street though plenty, if men suddenly had to queue. not on high street in shopping hours prob, but after dark pub type areas would be awash

I'd vote for no urinals and unisex loos. As soon as men had to queue as well, I bet the problem would get sorted. Also, if men weren't used to using urinals they might not see pissing in the street as such a normal thing to do.

xposts!

I think some women do have weird lengthy pee rituals TBH. Clearly doing stuff like getting tights down without putting your nail through them, changing tampons and stuff will take longer and I think a lot of women do some complex hovering manoevres. However bottom (ha!) line is that if women need more bogs than men to keep the queues down then you'd think they'd provide them where possible.

urinella problem solved !

1. WTF all the other women are doing in the bloody loo to cause the queues

In my (limited) experience, peeing as quickly as possible, washing hands, leaving. By the time you get to the front of the line you've spent more than enough time in the bloody place already!

It's the fact that there aren't enough cubicles, compared to urinals, that means women have to queue. Not some weird lengthy pee-ritual!

surprised I need to explain these basic facts TBH!

whatmeworry

1. negotiating layers of undergarments, wiping seat before, hovering, wiping seat after, renegotiating layers of clothes etc. Much slower than whipping a willy out. You must know that, though, surely?
2. men don't generally shit in public conveniences

Men toilets are usually way stinkier than womens though

why is that

purely cos of the urinals? I don't really understand it

I want to know 2 things:

1. WTF all the other women are doing in the bloody loo to cause the queues

1. Why men take so long in the loo at home and yet seem to be so fast in public ones.

You must have read enough poo threads here to know that polite ladies put some paper in the pan first to muffle the 'plop' and immediately flush to mimimise any unpleasant odour. Men don't seem to see the need for such niceties.

Helxi, thank you for that proper LOL!

I don't know why there aren't more unisex toilets. I've been in a few places like that - individual cubicles with the washing facilities shared (or sometimes individual washing facilities in each cubicle - much better.

Actually, I seem to remember reading somewhere about many schools changing to similar arrangements and it cut down on "anti-social" behaviour and bullying. I think in one, staff and students used the same facilities. If I can find the reference, I'll post it.

Toilets are for the purpose of eliminating body fluids and solids. They aren't necessarily going to be fragrant or have nice sounds in them. If ears and noses are that delicate, perhaps wait to go when you get home! or wear ear and nose plugs

"What happens when your female colleague's shit hits the bowl? A chorus of angel song?"

Oh god, I can't stop laughing at just how embarassing that would be. Even if it was designed to signal to the world that you've just shat out a rose-scented sculpture of pure gold, I still think I'd die of the shame!

Maybe something from Zadok the Priest?

axure

"The only Health & Safety issue is the disgusting smell in mens public conveniences. We have some unisex ones at work, they are gross, men grunting and plopping. Would only use them if desperate."

What happens when your female colleague's shit hits the bowl? A chorus of angel song?

The only Health & Safety issue is the disgusting smell in mens public conveniences. We have some unisex ones at work, they are gross, men grunting and plopping. Would only use them if desperate.

Perhaps all loos should be unisex, with no urinals, just cubicles - or maybe with the urinals further in, past the cubicles, so no-one had to walk past the urinals to get to a cubicle. I would find this a bit worrying at first, and I am sure there are others who would too, but I think I would get used to it.