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Is feminism all about man hating?

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PedanticPanda · 06/07/2012 11:14

When feminism is brought up around my DP and my other friends they all say the same thing,

I agree with feminists who want equal rights for men and women, but not feminists who hate men and want women to be treated better than men.

Do these feminists actually exist? I assumed that feminism was all about equal rights etc, I thought all the man hating was a stereotype but wasn't actually true, but, most people I know seem to think this is the idea of the majority and it's the minority of feminists who want equal rights.

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solidgoldbrass · 06/07/2012 20:14

To quote a meme that's being on Facebook for a while (or at least paraphrase it) 'Other classes of people being given rights that you have always had does not mean that you are being oppressed.'

What idiots describe as man-hating from feminists is basically egalitarianism ie treating all human beings as individuals with the same rights and responsibilities and not treating men as superior to women.

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ThePan · 06/07/2012 20:09

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Blistory · 06/07/2012 19:49

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seeker · 06/07/2012 19:45

Feminists are perceived as man hating because that is how a largely misogynist prss devoted to maintaining the status quo present us. And it is an easy get out clause for men - why should they cede any power to those strident, dungaree clad, hairy legged man haters?

MrGin · 06/07/2012 19:42

blistory you're the one who keeps questioning the relevance of the points I'm bringing up in relation to the OP.

I'm not asking you or dissing you about the relevance of your posts or questioning your beliefs.

messyisthenewtidy · 06/07/2012 19:41

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Blistory · 06/07/2012 19:29

I feel a bit like a dog chasing it's tail here, MrGin.

Is feminism all about manhating? How is explaining what feminism IS about, not relevant ? Surely, it's all that is relevant ?

And feminism gets a bad press because it's vocal, it's trying to upset the status quo. People don't like that. It's easier for them to argue that it's about menhating. That's a nice clean argument that'll get the men on side and a fair percentage of women as well.

So as a feminist, I wonder about someone posting and referencing something that firstly, is wrong and secondly, contributes to that without adding anything constructive.

MrGin · 06/07/2012 19:24

Rape or DV

MrGin · 06/07/2012 19:23

blistory it's relevant to the subject and OP of this thread. Which forgive me if I'm wrong isn't about rape a DV.

seeker · 06/07/2012 19:20

If Dittany. has been banned then Mumsnet HQ should be ashamed. She is brave and principled- and twice the person most of her detractors are.

ThePan · 06/07/2012 19:18

With respect MrG, "Well. Quite" was the massively understated 'stern' telling off. It's how you read it.Grin

Blistory · 06/07/2012 19:18

Relevant to what ?

Relevant to why women are raped simply because they are women ?

Relevant to why a women is beaten and disrespected simply because she is a woman ?

Relevant to why a woman is marginalised at work simply because she is a woman ?

Relevant to why a women is considered less equal to a man simply because she is a woman ?

You didn't need to pick an example. The point has been made that some women hate some men. You are point scoring and using one woman, a particular woman, to prove a point that doesn't need to be proved.

MrGin · 06/07/2012 19:17

Where's my stern telling off Olivia !

inde · 06/07/2012 19:13

You make some good points Blistory but I do support the women in my life both at home and at work. I'm going to leave it at that because although I think we have similar views about how individuals should be treated I don't think we are going to reach a consensus on the best way to achieve equality.

LurkingAndLearningForNow · 06/07/2012 19:10

Poor Dittany :(

Beachcomber · 06/07/2012 19:10
MrGin · 06/07/2012 19:09

blistory because it's relevant.

If we are talking about why some femenists are percieved as hating men ( the OP ) or the reasons why some people are put off getting involved, then I think it's worth looking at why this is, and MN offers some good examples.

And I'm not asking you to justify your beliefs, I'm pretty sure we're on the same track generally.

Beachcomber · 06/07/2012 19:09

No Lurking she wasn't. There are a whole bunch of rumours going around on here about dittany at the moment, including that she was banned. But the rumours are not true.

(Not at you Lurking - at the rumour spreading.)

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OliviaLMumsnet · 06/07/2012 19:07

@OTheHugeManatee

but dragging up stuff she may or may not have said on a deleted thread when she is not even here isn't really cricket.

Well. Quite.

LurkingAndLearningForNow · 06/07/2012 19:04

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Blistory · 06/07/2012 18:55

You could also have left that at your first sentence so why bring up the radfems. There's always got to be a negative. Why not try posting here about your actions and ideas ?

Please let it go and work with us. Making women justify their beliefs puts us on the back foot again and again and again.

MrGin · 06/07/2012 18:50

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namechangeguy · 06/07/2012 18:48

Interesting stuff, Blistory. I wish I had more time to respond right now, but I am going out. I would say though, as a human being it saddens me to see any other human beings persecuted, attacked or treated disrespectfully.

I will pop back later if this is still running.

MrGin · 06/07/2012 18:43

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