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that 'chemical imbalance' myth

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Alameda · 26/06/2012 15:54

so nice to see this notion that has been used to oppress and repress women for decades finally discussed as a dangerous myth - chemical imbalances and other black unicorns

although I despair at how sort of prevalent it is, how regressive and how effective it is at distracting women from the cultural determinants of their unhappiness

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/06/2012 17:37

Are you suggesting that someone on this sort of antidepressant doesn't need them, OP? Because that could be very dangerous.

I suffer depression, and last year, under my dr's supervision, I gradually reduced my dosage - and it still went very wrong, and I ended up having very dark, near-suicidal thoughts.

Had I stopped, full stop, I could have suffered even more.

Please be very careful about implying, even vaguely, that these medicines, which can be literal lifesavers, are not neccessary and are just medical professionals' way of ignoring women's real issues.

Alameda · 26/06/2012 17:25

Oh god, that reminds me of the funeral of a young woman last year, she had been an inpatient in a unit for girls/young women with eating disorders and borderline personality disorder (the whole borderline thing is awful isn't it, what happened to the idea of reclassifying it as a sort of complex PTSD type thing? Was that a non starter?) and had a horrible horrible horrible life. None of which was even obliquely alluded to, it was as if this bright and happy child just quite inexplicably died tragically young instead of being abused, betrayed by the agencies who first failed to protect her then failed to respond to the disclosure and finally the mental health industry that labelled her as inherently wrong because she couldn't articulate her distress in any way other than the sort of self injurious

it's so awful, such a fucking preventable waste

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SardineQueen · 26/06/2012 17:17

Interesting post although I admit I didn't read all of the link Blush

It's something that has been talked about on this topic a lot and I think is a really interesting issue.
How much of women's mental health problems are because well actually they are under a lot of pressure / have a shit life / have a terrible history / whatever. And actually this is never acknowledged it's all hormonal / chemical this and that.

So while I am sure there are people who have hormonal / chemical inbalances, most people with mental health problems have a reason for it in their lives. Of course giving them some pills to perk them up and keep them going is easier than anything else. And of course for many people with MH probs which are due to their situation, their situation isn't actually something that can be changed IYSWIM.

A poster on here worked in a secure mental health unit for girls and young women and she said that every single one of them had terribel stories of past sexual abuse. But that this aspect of them was not acknowledged / talked about and their behaviour was labelled disruptive / anti-social and diagnoses of BPD and similar followed. Rather than saying oh look these poor girls have been really fucked up by some right bastards now what can we do about that.

MooncupGoddess · 26/06/2012 17:11

Hmm... my understanding from speaking to various people and reading a couple of books (e.g. Richard Bentall's Madness Explained and Irving Kirsch's The Emperor's New Clothes) is that there is no real proof that a lack of seratonin causes depression. And even if there was, of course, that doesn't mean that the problem starts with the lack of seratonin - it could be that the sufferer had low seratonin as a result of life problems, rather than as a naturally occurring chemical imbalance.

Would be really interested to hear the views of any specialists on this.

WicketyPitch · 26/06/2012 17:09

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Alameda · 26/06/2012 16:58

and anyway, if we MUST be so regressive then please can we get back to the days of hysteria and the prescriptions for masturbation? Treatment to which I could definitely commit.

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Alameda · 26/06/2012 16:36

I have been told (by cpns not psychiatrists) to think of my bipolar/manic depression as a 'chemical imbalance' and countless people I have met through self help networks were similarly encouraged - yet despite all this emphasis on research into biological determinants (like it says in the blog) not one single treatment has been developed for bipolar! Not even one drug. If you put lithium to one side (as a naturally occurring element) everything else used to treat bipolar was developed for schizophrenia, epilepsy or depression - and the NICE guidelines discourage the use of antidepressants for obvious reasons (the manic switch)

but I'm straying from my original intent which was to see whether the chemical imbalance myth is particularly oppressive for women given the innately sexist history of psychiatry. It is worrying that people submit funding applications for research into the role of social support in, say, first episode psychosis and are declined while there genuinely has been research into gathering images of hedgehog brains. I think we need both but for women particularly, is it not profoundly depressing that we are still being told the problem is us and not the structural unfairness of society?

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WicketyPitch · 26/06/2012 16:24

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Alameda · 26/06/2012 16:17

I thought it was extremely rare for an actual 'shortage of serotonin' to be implicated in manic depression (which I am supposed to have but can't take anything like an SSRI without becoming seriously unwell). obviously there are certain medications (for high blood pressure) which lower serotonin and make people depressed but that's slightly different

I was thinking more along the lines of the ways in which women were encouraged to develop dependence on benzos etc in the fifties, as a way of distracting them from the glaring inequalities that were making them unwell and of depression particularly which unsurprisingly women are encouraged to seek treatment for far more often than men

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WicketyPitch · 26/06/2012 16:06

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