Fifty Shades

Anyfucker I knew you would be right of course

The OP has asked for this thread to just die a death now. I think we should respect that

I am not discussing BDSM Curry. If you read my posts on this thread, you will see that I have not. I offered kind support to the OP early on, and am now calling out another poster about why he is here, on this thread.

I would like to stop men like him from posting on vulnerable women's threads completely. I understand I can't do that, not being Boss of MN 'n' all, but I sure can call it when I see it.

I am sorry OP is upset. I would be too if I had shown my vulnerabilty in such a way, and a a creepy person rocked up to discuss it in ever more minute detail. I am on the OP's side, but of course if Im personally upsetting her, I will tactfully withdraw.

neveravictim I am so sorry to hear you are feeling uncomfortable. I have typed up a reply to you a few times and backed out of posting it as I have also been uncomfortable with the way the thread has gone. I think this thread is a good example of what is wrong in the FWR section at the moment.

In response to your earlier posts, I don't think you should worry about not following the herd (flock?!). Many many people have not read this book, and many, myself included, have no intention of doing so. It sounds rubbish.

Well AF while you're busy thinking it's relevent, the OP is upset and uncomfortable so why don't you go ask the question elsewhere

If this thread upsets you I htink its pretty clear you shouldnt read 50 shades OP

I think this particular argument is very relevant here, actually

Guys that hang out on threads where rape is a large part of the subject matter, and post like this one do, need the question to be asked.

I am simply surprised that I am the only one asking it.

And yes, I gave the OP kind and gentle advice aeons ago.

Guys, look at the OP again.

This argument is not for here.

Do you feel like you are made welcome, TCM ?

I said yesterdaythat I thought that this debate was in a very inappropriate place and yet it all started up again.

As I said I know there are tangents but while you've all been slagging each other off, most have not offered a kind word to the OP or addressed the delicate and sensitive question she had asked.

If I were the OP I would hide this thread.

AF who are told repeatedly they are unwelcome?

i pretty much only post in the FWR section.

TCM, out of all the umpteen threads about that piece of crap "fiction" what drew you to this one? There's a whole ream of them all over MN.

loved the blog

i am starting to feel seriously like the only woman in existence who hasnt read it and has no intentions of doing so.

its not the BDSM thing - its the fact its a badly badly written book based on twilight and thats enough to put me off.

i have read The Story of O, which is a literary classic, but i dont get the whole BDSM thing, im not opposed to some saucy writing, (i bought solidgoldbrass book) i just dont get what about being hit or told what to do is a turn on

id not read it, i cant imagine how if you have been the victim of rape this would be a good read.
its a bad read for everyone by the sound of it!

AF who are told repeatedly they are unwelcome?

agreed, went off on a bit of a tangent, my apologies to the op

TCM, what was it about the OP that drew your attention ?

Yes, AF and crystal. It shows a lack of respect.

I'm really sorry for my part in that crystaldash. No excuse for it. Apologies OP.

Do you think a survivor of rape has actually appreciated where this thread has gone? She asked a question and most have ignored her while discussing the finer points of BDSM. Do any of you think this could be one of the triggers she was trying to avoid!

AF who are told repeatedly they are unwelcome?

EchoBitch - I thought we (as in the FWR board) had reached some sort of point in the last week where we didn't sling personal insults about. It's a shame you feel that that doesn't apply to you.

Because personally, I don't care what you find tragic. Why on earth would I? So what does it add to the debate?

Absolutely nothing.

AF - yes, there always seems to be those who only stick their head up when there's a sex thread. And when they can tell women how they should be doing it.

sgb, I didn't say they couldn't

I haven't criticised BDSM on this thread, only the kind of people whose "mild compulsion" with it triggers their thread about sex, oo, oo, oo, geddinthere klaxon and compels them to come and make all kinds of shite pronouncements in a place where they are repeatedly told they are not welcome

of course, this is an open site, and this is a free country blah blah blah but you do have to wonder about the thought processes behind that, if indeed there are any that connect with a brain cell at all

blokes who wank over telling women how things are in a female-dominated space....just what this site needs (not)

and no I am not talking about you

Also FFS! Romantic vanilla heteromonogamy is a relatively recent invention and a tool of the patriarchy, enabling men to benefit from women's unpaid domestic and sexual servicing. AF, you and one or two other regular posters on this board practice romantic heteromonogamy despite the fact that other women are frequently beaten and even killed by their husbands. I'm prepared to believe (and indeed, to hope for the sake of your wellbeing) that your relationships are safe and life-enhancing and they work for you. People who are into swinging and BDSM can also be decent, ethical happy people who don't harm their partners.

Echobitch: Well you don't have to do it then. Plenty of things that other people do seem entirely tragic to me (monogamy, religion, football, watching Jeremy Kyle).