Fifty Shades

Oh I love you lot. I havent had the net for a while to sound off but I have been dismayed at the number of my female friends who are chortling over this book and are interested in "trying it" these are women whom I though of as strong females untill now.

I doubt the author gives a flying fig about its possible effect on women who have been raped. She just wants fame and fortune. Sadly.

No OP - it's not about female empowerment. It's about a woman who is laughing all the way to the bank over her success in conning a gullible public into buying a badly written book.

You're right, forgive me, this is my first time. I put my comments about general things about fifty shades in the wrong place. this is a thread specifically about a rape victim.

'english people' ??

I wonder why anyone would comment on this thread - where the OP asks specifically about the effect of the book on rape victims - when they say they have no idea how it could affect rape victims.

I can't comment on the feeling of rape victims. I have no idea how this could affect them.

I am so surprised at all the negativity. I read it . I loved it. She did not submit at all. she negotiated through the whole book. I have only read the 1st book. It was not badly written, it was fine, not brilliantly written either. What is it with english people that as soon as something gets to be so popular you all have to diss it and be so superior?
Build something up and knock it down. And why do people comment on a book if they HAVEN'T READ IT? How is that helpful??

Thanks, BC. I am over my little tantrum now

Just posting to say I agree very much with AnyFucker.

AF, we are still here, we're just kinda weary.

Book sounds like a pile of misogynistic triggering shite. Which is often what makes a book very popular, and if it is written in poncy language, become a classic. Go figure.

Thanks for that link Queen. Thats a good article and it explains why i am staying away from this book too.

I read this review, and made my judgement from it. Loads of ladies at work are talking about it, I don't think I shall bother with it at all.

screencrush.com/50-shades-of-grey-movie/

Mind you, I would be wary as a general principle of anyone suggesting that books should not be written about nasty subjects because they might upset someone. Almost any fictional theme is likely to be distressing to some people.

Chair, in your first post on the very first page you write about many women having submission fantasies and "but if the idea of submission seems ridiculous to you".

In response to the OP who explicitly said that as a rape victim the idea of submissive sex makes her uncomfortable.

Not very pleasant (understatement).

I'm sorry I hadn't read the whole thread! AF you are totally right. And I am really glad you called out the poster taking advantage of women on here. Sickening

I want to add that I feel as you do AnyFucker but was feeling so sick about this thread and what has been going on here that I did not have the stamina to post as you have and challenge it.

This is the very reason I stay away from posting in this section most of the time, and I have made the point a couple of times on the thread Pubes linked to.

Sorry

icepole - Sorry to hear it is making you feel that way - very understandably.

Political views aside, I wish more people would remember that a third of women are raped or seriously sexually assaulted during their life and this book will be upsetting a lot of woman. Like that third, I have been raped too.

Just to add that I am also a survivor and seeing this book everywhere is making me feel sick. I won't read it and I can't wait for it to disappear.

OP: I'm sorry as well for diverting the discussion and sorry that you have had a horrible experience in the past. Don't read 50 Shades. It's shit. From any and every viewpoint. It's atrociously written, stupid, overhyped, and frankly I think it is a nasty, meanminded and cynical piece of work. I wish you strength and healing.

OP, I can't think of any reason why you should read it. Why are you thinking you should? Is it because your friends are talking to you about it, and the conversations are making you uncomfortable? Or are you thinking it might have something worthwhile to say on the subject that you need to read? If so, I don't think it is that kind of book, although I haven't read it.

The impression I get from what I've heard is that it is a book about sexualisation of consent and control issues for entertainment purposes, with a male character who is angst ridden and trying to cover it up. But there doesn't seem to be any proper characterisation of the female character, and is really badly written from the couple of pages I've seen on the Amazon preview.

I can't think how it might be viewed as empowering.

So I can't think of any benefit you might gain from reading it.

thanks, POPG

have a nice soak

Hi AF, I was just posting about the problem on the latest 'what's wrong with the feminists' thread.

I'm not sure they get it. It's one of those - can't quite put my finger on it but know I need a bath - situations.

Yes, I said I was tactfully withdrawing but I was just so grateful that Card posted what she did, I had to post to her (and for the lurkers)

Yes, Card it happens a lot.

I am seriously wondering where the rest of the Feminist posters are, because I don't think I am alone in my discomfort here, so thanks for speaking up amongst the tumbleweed. I am sorry you find it upsetting , Card. Some people's bad experiences are some kind of fodder for some people, it would seem

And nobody bats a fucking eyelid.

If the FWR board is being left to the people who "play online" and pop up on threads where the OP is clearly vulnerable and others defend one's right to do that based on the fact he is a man, then this is not the Feminist place I thought it was.

AF I agree with you, about anti-fem guys posting on sensitive threads. Apparently they just think it's sexy fun argument time. I find it very upsetting actually. Dunno what to say when it happens (and it happens a lot) though.

This is what the FWR topic has come to now ? God help us.