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what draws you to this part of MN, particularly if you are a man? and if you dont support feminism?

265 replies

bejeezusWC · 19/06/2012 11:35

just what the title says really....

I have read a few contributors, and I really want to point to them and ask 'what are YOU doing here?' Grin but its not on is it

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AnyFucker · 19/06/2012 22:07

I realise that for some posters I represent all that is wrong with the world just by being a man

that isn't true

pornmonkey · 19/06/2012 22:01

I'm drawn to this part of mumsnet to become better informed. All the people that are important to me in my life are female (mum, sister, daughters, wife, colleagues, boss, boss's boss etc). I can't remain apart from the issues that affect them, they affect me too indirectly. I realise that for some posters I represent all that is wrong with the world just by being a man, and for that reason hardly ever post, more just read what others have to say and like I say, hopefully become better informed.

catgirl1976 · 19/06/2012 22:01

I come on this section as I am a feminism but I don't with everything everyone posts. There isn't one view of feminism so there is room for a lot of disagreement under that umbrella

Shakey1500 · 19/06/2012 21:36

Exactly AF that's why I said it tantamounts to not being a very good feminist.

Some discussions do make me feel uncomfy. They are usually the topics that I mull over and eventually agree with. There are others where i think "woah...I defnitely don't agree to that extent"

All in all, I shy away.

AnyFucker · 19/06/2012 20:57

the thing is, Feminism isn't "comfy, is it ?

how can it be "comfy" when you are questioning the roots and very fabric of the way that women are treated in society

there are an awful lot of people who want you to STFU actually, men and women because nasty feminists say things many folks don't want to hear because it might make a little worm of doubt enter your head and that isn't comfy^

when I first started thinking about Feminism and what it meant to me, I had some rather horrid lightbulb moments, tbh

kim147 · 19/06/2012 20:26

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 19:54

Good idea

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 19/06/2012 19:51

I've emailed them.

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 19:42

Does it. That is a shame. I hadn't realised

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 19/06/2012 19:40

It says registration is closed.

Shakey1500 · 19/06/2012 19:38

I get drawn here through active conversations. There are certain aspects of feminism I agree with, would argue for. But there are others that I don't tend to agree with. They would probably come under the Radfem "umbrella".

I certainly don't feel educated enough to debate the individual topics I may not agree with, or even discuss fully the ones I do!

I used to find a certain "tone" here that I disliked but to be fair, twas rare. Lately threads are more educational, less confrontational.

But on the whole, I don't find it a comfy place. I guess that tantamounts to me not being a very good feminist, if indeed I am one.

Grin
EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 19:36

Why don't you register?

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 19/06/2012 19:35

Yes, it looks really interesting. I hope they find somewhere Smile

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 19:31

PubeGardens - On the website they say it is still happening. Are you thinking of going?

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 19/06/2012 19:29

Is the RadFem conference still happening? Did they find another venue?

BasilBabyEater · 19/06/2012 19:28

at Yellowraincoat's hobby of kicking cocks.

And then raincoats.

(English raincoat = french for condom, no?)

And then chicken keepers being offended. They would be, if you're going around kicking their cocks.

Sorry this thread has a-jumbled all of my thought processes.

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 19:26

Juggling - some links if you are interested.

<a class="break-all" href="http://noanodyne.com/2011/11/taking-back-feminism-a-manifesto/radicalhub.com/radfem-101/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">noanodyne.com/2011/11/taking-back-feminism-a-manifesto/radicalhub.com/radfem-101/
factcheckme.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/ongoing-to-far/

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 19:24

You can pm me if you want. Might not be able to answer it - but I will try

OlympicMarathonNCer · 19/06/2012 19:22

Rallies are great, well worth going to one.

I do have a question to ask/concern to talk about but it's not something I can deal with on the boards.

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 19:18

Yes I have recently started to say I am a radfem - even though I think I have a lot to learn. You don't have to be a radfem to go to the conference, just a feminist genuinely interested in wanting to know more.

Radical doesn't mean extreme, it means getting to the root of things i.e. recognising the patriarchy and wanting to overthrow it. Also being against porn, lap dancing,, etc and recognising it is abusive to women. And not thinking it is possible to change sex. Lastly recognising heterosexual relationships at the root of a lot of the day-to-day oppression of many women. Can find you some links if you want?

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 19/06/2012 19:08

Thanks Eats - How radical do you have to be to be a RadFem ? What sorts of things do they believe ? Are you a RadFem ?
Possibly should start another thread - but since when did that stop me Wink

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 19:04

Juggling - I googled feminism and the area I live ina nd came up with some stuff. Million women rising is a great march against violence to women. the RadFem conference in London and there will be local things, unless you are out in the sticks

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 19/06/2012 18:57

I think to take my engagement with feminism on a step I'd like to go to a rally - possibly with my daughter (aged 13) There was one that caught my attention recently and I thought of going to called "A million women rise" - but didn't make it to one yet. Any suggestions of good things going on ?

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 19/06/2012 18:54

Glad to hear you are so active, I think it is important for feminists to be so - and that you are getting better.

Totally understand that you may not want to debate. You can either just lurk or ask questions.

JugglingWithTangentialOranges · 19/06/2012 18:53

Thanks for the feminism in chat link Beachcomber - that was an interesting and friendly thread. How about doing that "Any questions" idea again sometime?

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