Taking AN ADULT child with a disability to a brothel

Sex is not a right. Someone should want to have sex with you. If they don't they don't. Anyone who uses a prostitute is abusing women.
However I do think there is a lot if stigma around disabled people having a sexuality, this does make it more difficult for someone with a disability to have a sexual relationship. Tacking this by having more people with disabilities normalised in the media etc would be much more helpful than taking a child to a prostitute. And yeah apparently men need sex and women put up with it.

What do you mean by practical sex education? If you mean having sex - then no that isn't sex education.

I'm interested too.

Yup, fair enough. I gather that sex therapists whose therapy includes physical sex recognise that what they do is called prostitution. Not that I've spoken to a whole lot of 'em, mind you! I sort of wanted to differentiate because you get male sex therapists working with female clients, which prises the debate open to include women as clients without invoking the exploitation argument.

I'm not wedded to any point of view on this, except the feminist one(s). I find it interesting: is there a case for practical sex education? In what circumstances could it be beneficial, if any?

That's all :) I'm not bothered if nobody else is!

Someone being paid to provide sex is a prostitute, whatever you call it

1. Not all sex providers are prostitutes. I can see an argument for taking a disabled young adult of either sex to a physical sex therapist, for example.

From garlic's post.

No? Why not?

dangerous - When people are justifying this, ime it is always about disabled men's right to have sex with prostitutes.

I nearly threw up when it was on

I think adult child in the title refered to an adult of spring of a parent, rather than a description of an adult with a disability being likened to a child. I hope so anyway.

sorry didnt mean to have an able in the end of that first paragraph

I had a debate day about people with disabilities using sex workers> I was the only person out of 75 students 5 lecturers and 8 particpants who had learning, physical or mental health problems, who did not feel it was appropriate nor acceptable. My view point was 1) no one has an entitlement to sex and many able disabled and non disabled people do not have ease of finding sexual partners.

2. and so having a disability does not make somes need for sex any greater than anyonelses to an extend it is ok to exploit and abuse woman in such a way.

and 3) it was un equal debate as the need of men where outweighing the needs for woman as womans needs for sex did not feature anywhere within the debate it was focused on males with disabilities.

wot garlic said ^^

It simply said child, which gave a whole different connotation. We don't really have a word for adult children, do we?

I'd hate to imagine what the previous thread title was!
'Adult child' is offensive enough for me.

Garlic - What did you say? Just imagining you trying to explain about your garlic fanjo!

You made me laff so much the neighbours peered over the fence!

Garlic - Sorry to hear that. I have 18 kids so my mental and physical health is excellent. I admit after hearing more about your woes I am reading much more into your Mn name

Thanks for asking, Eats, it's tough knowing I have absolutely no purpose or value in this world. If only I could have fulfilled every woman's destiny to be a human incubator, but I am cursed by deficiency.

Garlic - How are you coping with your mental and physical problems?

When I talked about carers I was not talking about carers having sex with severely disabled people. I was talking about carers helping 2 physically disabled people into bed or wherever, so they could have sex - the carer leaving the room for sex to take place. That seems sensible to me.

And as Alex said there are people with sever disabilities who do ahve decent long term partners and have sex. I am not denying the discrimination they face, simply that there are severely disabled people having consensual sex.

In a related point, I think it is a disgrace that generally residential homes can not provide double beds. Have known a few elderly and disabled couples go into the same home and all they are offered are single beds in different rooms.

Leith - your "principle that women who have [infertility] issues feel that as women and as humans they are deficient or less worthy than others" is my father's principle! He was a nutcase, and even he came round to respecting me despite my - ahem, barrenness.

This makes your assumption even more absurd than my insane father's. HTH.

Throwing a couple of slightly different lights on this (I haven't heard or read the articles, only this thread):-

1. Not all sex providers are prostitutes. I can see an argument for taking a disabled young adult of either sex to a physical sex therapist, for example.

1. It used to be usual for fathers to take sons to a prostitute for their first sexual experience. The service was generally provided free. Obviously this was a very skewed deal, with nasty overtones of "nice girls don't" and male entitlement ... but I wonder whether it'd be a good idea to teach young adults of both sexes how to do good sex?

Just a question.

If I had a disabled daughter, I'd like to think that if this was something she wanted to do, I would not refuse to help or enable on moral grounds. As an adult it would be her choice.