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do you believe in the patriarchy?

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bejeezusWC · 08/06/2012 07:47

A poster on another thread said she views feminism as the struggle against patriarchy. That is how I view it too. I believe that is considered the rad fem stance?

Another poster said she didn't believe in patriarchy

I don't geddit

Why/how are women so unequal if not for patriarchal societies? WHO has been oppressing us?

Please tell me what you think, if you don't believe in patriarchy

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dittany · 11/06/2012 19:47

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 11/06/2012 19:46

Dittany rocks!!!!

VashtiBunyan · 11/06/2012 19:45

Dittany, I don't think ES was addressing you. I think she was talking about you, which she frequently does, even on threads you have not posted on.

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 19:43

But you're repeatedly not addressing the person you're most frequently discussing. It's dehumanising.

EclecticShock · 11/06/2012 19:41

I'll address whoever I want on this thread as a basis for debate. That's what the thread is for. I have addressed several people on this forum not just dittany.

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 19:39

Step away from the anti-feminist sources then.

And stop addressing posters on this thread in the third person. It's most rude

VashtiBunyan · 11/06/2012 19:38

The provide links.

Why are you so obsessed with Dittany?

EclecticShock · 11/06/2012 19:37

Well, I have researched it and what I have read doesn't ring true with dittany's perspective.

EclecticShock · 11/06/2012 19:36

It's a genuine question. There's lots of very good scholarly articles to soirced on the web, would would surely give a more rounded view.

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 19:35

Firstly, I trust Dittany's word. Secondly, I read the link. I tried googling colonial feminism, and was only getting post-colonial feminism in the result.

Now, stop picking on one poster, continuously...

VashtiBunyan · 11/06/2012 19:35

It doesn't involve any research. It is on wikipedia.

swallowedAfly · 11/06/2012 19:33

you're not carrying that chip on your shoulder very subtly ES.

EclecticShock · 11/06/2012 19:32

Why don't you do your own research rather than taking dittany's word for it?

dittany · 11/06/2012 19:30

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 11/06/2012 19:22

I didn't realise that is where it came from. I have only ever seeen it mentioned in , what about the men or Trans threads, so assumed wrongly that it came from men.

swallowedAfly · 11/06/2012 19:21

tsk don't you realise the bar is much higher for women? we have to be sugar and spice and all things nice. we've evolved like that.

dittany · 11/06/2012 19:10

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FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 19:09

Off to google Amanda Marcotte.

Thank you for clearing that up about colonial feminism, Dittany.

VashtiBunyan · 11/06/2012 19:07

Interestingly, Wikipedia's opening line under 'intersectionality' is:

'Intersectionality is a feminist sociological theory first highlighted by Kimberlé Crenshaw (1989)'

dittany · 11/06/2012 19:02

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dittany · 11/06/2012 19:01

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VashtiBunyan · 11/06/2012 18:54

GAG, those are examples of intersectionality.

Womanism has certainly existed for my whole life time, so intersectionality is hardly a new idea within feminism.

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 18:52

WTF is "Womanism"?

And Colonial Feminism? I've heard of post-colonial feminism

GothAnneGeddes · 11/06/2012 18:33

Basil - If feminism is absolutely so marvellous at intersectionality why does a movement called Womanism exist and why does a term called colonial feminism exist?

swallowedAfly · 11/06/2012 18:20

yep and gender inequality and oppression is the first template - it predates the others.