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do you believe in the patriarchy?

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bejeezusWC · 08/06/2012 07:47

A poster on another thread said she views feminism as the struggle against patriarchy. That is how I view it too. I believe that is considered the rad fem stance?

Another poster said she didn't believe in patriarchy

I don't geddit

Why/how are women so unequal if not for patriarchal societies? WHO has been oppressing us?

Please tell me what you think, if you don't believe in patriarchy

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GothAnneGeddes · 12/06/2012 00:11

With the discussion about older women, I have to link to this brilliant Tina Fey quote here www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/03/13/old-ladies-talking-in-public/

I think it's very telling that the two "worst" insults a woman can receive is old and fat.

Portofino · 11/06/2012 23:32

Sorry ES, but you post so much from the male perspective. Tis like debating with Larry....

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 11/06/2012 23:28

Sorry Eclectic. There have been other posters here who when someone has said they are a man, it seems like everyone has known except me

Portofino · 11/06/2012 23:25

Belgian women, of an age, all seem to die their hair this burgundy colour and get it cut really short. Tiz bizarre.

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 23:23

Wait, tha's a bit silvery, isn't it... I mean, these are all quite recent So, there's hope yet

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 23:20

Is this the kind of shade you were looking for?

EclecticShock · 11/06/2012 23:17

On that beautiful note, I bid you goodnight. Sleep tight.

garlicfanjo · 11/06/2012 23:17

OK, Turnip & Eats, I'm goin' a-huntin' fer that thar 18th-century grey! Cheers!

It will be fashionable on older women, believe me.

EclecticShock · 11/06/2012 23:15

Am I a man? Why don't you check my posting history :). I have female biology, I have given birth, I have periods, I have breasts err... Anything else you wish to know? I'd say undeniably that by your definition I'm all woman :)

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 11/06/2012 23:13

Turnip - I have seen it in very young and very trendy women. But don't think its considered trendy when you are of the age to actually get grey hair naturally

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bejeezusWC · 11/06/2012 23:09

eclectic what oppressions/ inequalities would: you attribute to the patriarchy, if any?

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TunipTheVegemal · 11/06/2012 23:08

Garlic, a few years ago I went for a haircut at a reasonably young & trendy salon. Four out of the five young women hairdressers (I mean very young, 20s not 30s) had grey hair - light grey, almost white, but grey nonetheless. It looked very 18th century, all exactly the same shade so clearly dyed rather than some freak of recruitment. They all looked bloody marvellous - it was a flattering shade and very cool.
I was hoping it would be the Next Big Thing but I have never seen it since.

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 11/06/2012 23:08

Would certainly be a conversation starter Smile

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 23:07

(short for Fuck The Patriarchy, EBAL) Wink

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 11/06/2012 23:06

Sorry just realised - no FTP would be totally great!

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bejeezusWC · 11/06/2012 23:06

Electric blue!

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 11/06/2012 23:06

FTP?

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 23:04

Garlic, matching multi-coloured rinses it is, then... Would it be too much to get F.T.P shaved into the back of my head?

I plan on growing old disgracefully. Grin

garlicfanjo · 11/06/2012 23:02

Frothy, multicolour may well be the only viable option open to me right now Wink

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 11/06/2012 23:01

Eclectic - Is Porto right? Are you a man?

garlicfanjo · 11/06/2012 23:01

Eclectic, the only one of Frothy's points that can't be blamed squarely on patriarchy is the donkey sanctuary one. And that can be answered with the fact that helplines for abusive males, which are under-subscribed, get government funding while the over-subscribed lines for abused females don't.

FrothyDragon · 11/06/2012 22:59

Pfffft, blue rinse... I'm going multicolour! Grin

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bejeezusWC · 11/06/2012 22:58

Oooooo garlic I dont fear ageing, if i can get a blue rinse! Grin

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RulersMakeBadLovers · 11/06/2012 22:58

I don't really know what you are arguing for, ES? More analysis of the various factors (which would still require analysing the patriarchy) or less analysing full stop?

Himalaya · 11/06/2012 22:57

Have been off watching 'A Day in the Life' so a bit late on the scene...but EclecticShock she said 'bring a man', there is not much other way to interpret it.

Wasabi - hope you blow them away with your brilliance ;-)