Turkey plans to curb abortions

Good for the Turkish women for getting right out there and protesting against this.

This law would be a disaster for them, and they know it.

Countries where similar laws have been introduced (ie. total or almost total ban) have seen a sharp rise in hospital admissions of women with botched backstreet abortions, and a rise in maternal deaths.

In Latin America, there are estimated to be four unsafe abortions for every ten births.

Why is the life of a baby worth more than the life of the mother?

enimmead, heartbeatbill.com/ an excellent law to defend human life. If Mitt gets in and replaces RBG with a conservative SCOTUS justice who will uphold this bill and thus throw the "Roe v Wade" unborn baby out with the bathwater, it will go ahead.

oh and there is no such thing as a war on women. although this being a feminist forum I know you will claim there is.

I'm baffled by the c-section thing

... and I'm baffled by the notion that something being 'unnatural' in medicine is now a reason to restrict it.

I'm assuming that vaccines, treatment for cancer, transplants, anti-biotics and all types of prosthetic limbs will shortly be restricted too? Wouldn't it be nice if only we could all naturally succumb to the plague and smallpox just like mother nature intended?

Well said beansmum. It doesn't make any sense.

This is appalling.

Agree that women's rights are being attacked all over the world at the moment - even in places where they don't have many to start with

I'm baffled by the c-section thing, sadly not surprised by the abortion thing.

When they say "10/4 weeks gestation" I'm guessing that's what we would normally refer to as 12/6 week after LPM? (can anyone confirm?) which makes 12 weeks doable (80% of UK abortions are carried out before then) and 6 weeks pretty much impracticable.

Hurrah for the women of Turkey who are protesting in huge numbers about this - and good luck to them.

it seems like women's rights are being attacked worldwide. Stating with us controlling our own fertility and bodies.

Look at all the women protesting in the streets - if only the ministers would listen, and stop the crazy plans. 4 weeks - that's almost making abortion illegal all together.

i have reported chibi's post

i have reported golfsale's post

beansmum, we can't tell if "day one" has happened (conception) so a woman taking HBC/ EHC is not INTENDING to kill anything as that is not the way contraception is intended to work. That would be the problem with a "personhood from conception" law.

A 4-week ban would allow for just about every deliberate abortion to be prohibited without interfering with any contraceptive method, and so be popular with pro-lifers who do not have an extreme hatred of birth control.

See Ohio's "Heartbeat Bill"- very similar law.

I think the move to prevent doctors from advising women to have c-sections where needed on medical grounds is even more worrying though. They have no regard for the health or indeed lives of women. This will put women's lives at risk.

If abortion is murder, it's murder from day one. I don't understand the logic that allows some, but not all, abortion.

And what exactly gives this pompous arse the right to determine the acceptable minimum number of children ?

FWIW reducing the limit to four weeks is IMO pretty much the same thing as outlawing abortion altogether: unless you are TTC you may simply not even suspect anything at that stage, especially if your periods are irregular; I certainly didn't with either of my two pregnancies (one of which was in fact planned).

If you're going to outlaw abortion outright, at least say so!

Oh dear . What use is a four week limit for heaven's sake? Many women will not even know they are pregnant that early on and, for those that do, it really doesn't allow thinking time does it? However, I suppose that is the whole point.

A huge jump backwards for Turkish women. I would imagine there are already quite a high number of illegal abortions taking place beyond the already low limit of 10 weeks. Lowering the limit to 4 weeks will only increase that and put many more women at risk.

It's shit.

Turkey has not been admitted to the EU for all sorts of reasons. This seems par for the course.