Boy spared custody over girl rape after watching p0rn

The 12 year old boy can't consent to the abuse either

And the fuckwit adult who allowed him to view it are guilty of child abuse and just as guilty of the rape of the girl.

Any parents without controls on their Internet are IMO liable.

Poor little girl. And so difficult because the boy was so young. But I can't imagine either of my older boys behaving like this to a little girl no matter what they had watched. I don't know what to think.

I really don't know what to think. The poor girl and a seriously disturbed boy.

I think we will start seeing a lot more if this as pornography is everywhere now.

Well, you're right, it is fucked up, but I suppose they had to deal with the situation in hand and not start on the whole porn culture, much as it would help in the long run.

Poor kid. Poor kids.

YY of course children under 13 cannot consent

What I am getting at is that if the sex in porn is indistinguishable from rape to the person viewing it, then that is a pretty big deal and yet the reporting and what the judge said doesn't seem to think there is anything odd about this.

Custody for children cures nothing. He should perhaps have been remanded to foster care, where he would be more closely supervised, but sending children to prison doesn't prevent further crimes, it just hones criminals.

But what could the best outcome have been? The twelve year old didn't stop being a child when he raped the nine year old. He should never have been in a position to see the porn.

And having seen hard core porn, I'm not sure that you can tell the difference between consensual and none consensual, there's no back story, just violent banging. Further more, it doesn't matter what the nine year old said at the time, because it would have been rape even if she had asked him to do it. Any sex under twelve is rape.

What is depressing is the judge is a woman. I wonder how the judge would feel if she would feel if she was raped. The terror that poor little girl must have suffered would have been horrific. She would have relived her experience going to court.

It is awful to think that a child went through the horror of a court case for nothing.

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Reading that report the thing that jumps out (apart from the obvious awfullness of it all) is the idea that he watched this stuff and went and copied it.

Rape and sex are not the same thing.

So either the porn he was watching depicted rape (which would probably have been mentioned)
That it is generally accepted that the sex represented in "standard" hardcore porn in not distinguishable from a depiction of rape
Or
That a 12 year old cannot be expected to know the difference between consensual sex (as depicted onscreen) and rape

Whichever one of these is the case (or combination of these) the fact that it is reported so factually is really disturbing - that the judge and media do not seem to have questioned why watching consensual sex would result in someone having non consensual sex IYSWIM.

The sex education you get in primary school is about what sex is, not how it is done.

So he learned at ten or eleven what it is, then at twelve, he thinks he's seen how its done.

I don't know. A twelve year old wouldn't necessarily know better if his sex education has come from hard core porn, where rape is basically packaged as normal and enjoyable.

Twelve years old can be very very young.

Both of those children need intense intervention and counselling.

It is disturbing. I think there's a line though between rape and kids unknowling copying what they see on TV. I remember on the Wright Stuff there was some woman whod seen her daughter sucking a male friends penis, they were like 5 or 6 or something. I would say making a big deal of that would be completely wrong and would likely traumatise both parties and do far more damage than just telling them "don't do that, it's rude" or something similar. Where exactly you draw the line is beyond me though. A 12 year old really should know better. It would depend on the circumstances of what happened I think. It's worrying though that porn is so easily available to young children.

This is very disturbing, on many levels.

I would think the lack of a custodial sentence related to the age of the boy who committed the rape, and he pleaded guilty.

What is significant and extremely disturbing is the acknowledgement that the courts accepted that he committed the rape as a result of watching porn. It is recognised, for example, that children who have been sexually abused themselves, or have witnessed the sexual abuse of others may go on to commit sexual abuse themselves. This, in my mind, shows that the consumption of porn by a child is in itself a form of child abuse. Will be watching the aftermath of this case closely.