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Most Intelligent: Your Mother or Father?

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 22/05/2012 00:04

So who is most intelligent amongst your parents - your mother or your father?

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EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 22/05/2012 10:48

SGM X posted. Why blatant sexism?

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SardineQueen · 22/05/2012 10:48

I don't know. How are you measuring intelligence?

EatsBrainsAndLeaves · 22/05/2012 10:47

KoPo - Fair question. I read about a study done on intelligence and perceptions of intelligence of men and women. The study was looking at the idea that in general, people think men are more intelligent than women. Now obviously if you ask people if men are more intelligent than women, most people are going to say no, as it is not generally socially acceptable to say this, even if people think it.

So instead it asked people who was most intelligent - their mother or father. About two thirds of people said their father. Of course statistically, it should be about fifty fifty. So about fifty per cent saying their father is more intelligent and fifty per cent their mother.

MNers I think are generally more intelligent and thoughtful than a random population - so I wondered what people here would say - thats all. There are too few replies here to be statistically significant - but it is roughly fifty fifty so far.

Of course as some posters have pointed out the concept of intelligence can itself be problematic - does it refer to level of education for example, in which case amongst older people, men are generally better educated in a formal sense than women. Or is it about analytical skills, emotional intelligence, etc. But the question simply leaves it up to the person answering the question to make their own interpretaion of what intelligence is.

I thought it was an interesting study though, as it tries to reveal what people really think. But I am heartened, even if it isnt statistically significant, that MNers seem to have a more realistic view of men and women's intelligence. Of course I posted this in feminism, which also probably helped!

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TheWomanFormerlyKnownAsSGM · 22/05/2012 10:45

I think this thread is very sad in its blatant sexism.

KoPo · 22/05/2012 10:34

*note ... damn typo's

ScrambledSmegs · 22/05/2012 10:33

Don't know really, they're pretty much on the same level I'd say. Probably my dad as he has a more inquiring mind than my mum and is quicker at understanding new technology and concepts. My mum has wider interests though and recently learnt to program in HTML (in her 60's!). It's a tough one.

The only way to find out would be to give them an IQ test I suppose, and I wouldn't really like to guess at the results of that one.

KoPo · 22/05/2012 10:32

Im wondering what the basis of the question is. Intelligence is a very subjective thing. I not the OP has not added anything to the thread after the initial post.

If there is a point to this then please share it.

EdlessAllenPoe · 22/05/2012 10:31

my mother.

it is always said she could walk behind you through a revolving door, and come out ahead....

dad is a clever clogs too.

Voidka · 22/05/2012 10:27

Both left school at 16 and went into jobs. My Dad struggles to read so I would say my Mum, but its not much of a contest :(

However my Dad is the sweetest person you will ever meet and I love him to pieces.

bronze · 22/05/2012 10:23

A thing, your dad sounds lovely

And the courting coupler were sweet

bronze · 22/05/2012 10:21

About the same I think. Mum has two degrees to dads one though.

My children think I'm more intelligent than dh. I think we just have different strengths

PrematurelyAirconditioned · 22/05/2012 10:20

Very different - DM "cultured", DF "geeky/blokey".

In an IQ test though, I'd put money on my DF.

AThingInYourLife · 22/05/2012 10:19

Yes, good point Bertie. There are so many ways to be intelligent.

And intelligence related to traditionally women's spheres is usually underrated.

e.g. "male" abilities like maths and engineering = very clever

"female" abilities like sewing, running a house efficiently = any idiot can do them

BertieBotts · 22/05/2012 10:14

"Intelligence" is bum though, and subjective. What does it mean, anyway? What if one person is slower to pick up a skill but in the end is better at it? Then who's better?

AThingInYourLife · 22/05/2012 10:13

"My DF couldn't read or write when he left school, my DM taught him when they were courting as teenagers."

:)

OMG, that is so sweet! What an amazing story.

BertieBotts · 22/05/2012 10:12

I think probably my Mum, but my Dad would think he was. And I'm cleverer than both of them Wink

My Dad is better at maths, does a technical job etc, but tends to overestimate his abilities e.g. with computers and show off a bit, which shows if you know more about a subject than he does. He reads a lot, but more for pleasure.

My Mum is a slower learner and doesn't think of herself as academic but she has skills e.g. reading music, playing the guitar, has learned how to paint in recent years and seems to pick things up more easily and read more for purposes of learning/self development. For example, she has always insisted she's "rubbish" at computers, but in recent years has picked stuff up and - for example, my grandad sent her a satnav and tried to explain in a complicated way over the phone how to use it, saying he got all confused about doing XYZ on it. But because over the past few years she's done more on computers, used phones and other gadgets etc, she picked it up and found it easy and intuitive to use.

I also find my Mum more thoughtful whereas my Dad - well, there's a great saying, "A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices" - yep, that would fit him Grin

AThingInYourLife · 22/05/2012 10:08

I would say it's about equal.

My Dad would insist it's my mother.

She got married just before she graduated and never had a job, so she has very little confidence in herself or abilities. I think it's also just her personality to lack confidence and be self-effacing.

But my Dad has always been her champion :)

We always got sent to her with our maths homework.

I realise looking back that he did this because he wanted us to appreciate her and how smart she is (it worked) but also because he wanted his girls to know that women can be just as good as/better than men at maths.

She used to always insist that she was the taller of the two (she is not, by a fair way) and we believed her because from a child's angle you can't tell :o

Bonsoir · 22/05/2012 10:06

My father is a lot better educated than my mother, and had a career that was intellectually challenging and developed him still further. My mother is clever but hindered by her less well honed analytical skills.

BillyBollyBandy · 22/05/2012 10:03

Both my parents would say they are the more intelligent. We are a confident household Wink

My df is more academic, both passed grammar school exams but my dm in her own words "couldn't be bothered".

I always thought that she didn't think she was particularly clever, as she is self depreciating and has never wanted a career, even though I thought it was obvious she was.

However, one fine day when df was bragging talking about his high IQ score that was founded on his grammar school exam, my dm casually dropped in that hers was higher. Oh how I laughed Grin

I have 2 db's and they are both more academic and intelligent than their wives. Me and dh are about the same, I have a quicker mind I think, but he can understand things with more complexity as he is willing to work at it.

AbsofAwesomeness · 22/05/2012 10:03

And both my grandmothers were ridiculously intelligent, but for one she was forced to leave school at 14. She was very curious, read a lot, learned a new word every day and designed the house that granddad built for her. If she'd been born 20, 30 years later it would have been so different.

AbsofAwesomeness · 22/05/2012 10:00

Tough one - I think they're about the same, and both rather intelligent, but have made some bad choices. And my mother can come out with some astoundingly stupid stuff sometimes, which is more confusing as she is obviously quite clever.

DP and I are about the same, same level of education, just clever in different ways (he's more mathematically intelligent, I'm more language-y/humanities intelligent)

OddBoots · 22/05/2012 10:00

Different, both are intelligent but in different ways.

My mother always thought herself to be thick (sadly this is how she was brought up, she was a disappointing female only child) and only realised at near retirement age that she isn't but mental health problems had stopped her studying or working. She has a great engineering mind and can find amazing solutions to problems.

My dad has a lot of knowledge on a whole range of subjects, he didn't go to university but has read a lot and really talks to people to gain understanding. He too has been held back because he has been caring for my mum but I think that has brought an emotional intelligence too.

IBetTheresFlumpPorn · 22/05/2012 09:59

It's very hard to tell, as my mother suffered brain damage in an accident in her 20s.

Throughout my childhood, much was made of how intelligent my Dad was, but from flashes of insight and creativity shown by my mother, I think that she would have been more intelligent than he was. It was only in my mid-late teens that I saw that, really, Dad wasn't all that bright at all - but you just accept when you're a child that what you're being told is true.

They both had to leave school aged 14 to go to work (farm labouring in my Dad's case, domestic service for Mum).

oreocrumbs · 22/05/2012 09:57

Blush sorry for the mistakes, you can tell I didn't get a "grammer" school education!

oreocrumbs · 22/05/2012 09:55

My DM is the better educated, good degree and career, had a grammer school education etc.

My DF couldn't read or write when he left school, my DM taught him when they were courting as teenagers. He went on to build a multimillion pound business on the strengh of his back and the sharpness of his ideas.

Both very intelligent but in such different ways.