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Teenage boys' sexual harassment of teenage girls

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Nyac · 17/05/2012 23:54

New study commissioned by the NSPCC shows worrying trends, although some of the reporting attempts to hide who the perpetrators actually are, calling the boys "friends" and "peers":

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18088334

"The in-depth interviews with 35 teenagers at two London schools found that girls as young as 11 were being asked to send "special photos" to boys who they knew.

In some cases, the girls had to write a name in black marker pen on a part of their body to show it was the "property" of a certain boy.

The teenagers also faced a "barrage" of messages from boys demanding for intercourse or oral sex."

This is what happens when you expose a generation of boys to pornography whilst at the same time forgetting to have a society that treats sexual crimes against women and girls as something serious.

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kickassangel · 18/05/2012 01:23

I think we need to be very clear that no means no. Whether that's kids pestering for sweets/TV, messing around and one of them says stop it hurts or any kind of intimate/sexual encounter.

It's something that I take seriously, and I am both a teacher and a mother. The word no isn't used too often, but when it is, that's the final line and there is no negotiation about it.

I really do think we need to hammer that message home, especially for youngsters about their bodies. No, I don't want to try drink or drugs or sex or anything I am uncomfortable with should be something that they are able to say and that is respected.

Horsetowater · 18/05/2012 01:03

Allowing children to view porn IS legally classed as neglect and therefore abuse -and if it's encouraged that is straightforward child sex abuse. If a teenage boy encourages a young girl into sexual activity then he can be prosecuted for child abuse.

Nobody takes it seriously and it's appalling. It's a massive can of worms and they won't touch it.

The only encouraging news is that people will soon be able to opt out of having adult content on the internet.

In many ways I feel more sorry for the boys as their parents seem to think of it as a matter of course that they will be exposed to porn, where girls seem to be more protected and have a kind of 'yuk' factor that kicks in if they are exposed. Boys will egg each other on and encourage each other. Not all of course.

There should be a massive education programme underway, telling children in no uncertain terms that if they engage in any of this they could be accused of child sex abuse. Parents should also be educated about this, although they should know better.

Nyac · 18/05/2012 00:55

You've completely misread me TeiTetua. My point is that these boys have been exposed to pornography and this is why they are acting out in such severe and sometimes criminal ways. This isn't something that can be brushed under the carpet and claim that nothing can be done.

Nothing to do with "youth of today, harumph" as you put it.

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CheerfulYank · 18/05/2012 00:50

That is disgusting.

I would be horrified if my daughter were treated like that, and beyond ashamed and angered if my son treated a girl that way.

grimbletart · 18/05/2012 00:38

I agree with Nyac about porn etc. but would go further and say that it is also what happens when girls are not taught how to tell boys to F off in no uncertain terms. We are still in a society where females are seen as 'add ons' who somehow have to appease males- even if that male is some spotty 13 -year-old.

Parents, teachers, society should be giving girls the self esteem and self respect to stop running around after boys like little puppies. Part of their bodies being a boy's property FFS. In an age where women have (apparently) more autonomy they have ever had in the past girls are going backward.

This is absolutely not victim blaming, so don't flame me. On the contrary, we must give girls the emotional and mental tools to stand up to boys at the same time as we teach boys how to act as civilised human beings.

I'm glad I was brought up in an age where my contemporaries had no hesitation in telling boys to get lost if we were hassled.

TeiTetua · 18/05/2012 00:32

"Boys did not behave this way twenty or thirty years ago"--because they didn't have access to the technology. I really don't think it's a case of the youth of today, harrumph harrumph, wasn't like this when I was their age, harrumph.

And short of exiling the kids to an island that the Internet hasn't reached, keeping them away from porn is a pretty futile hope. You really can't blame the parents for letting them have access to pornography when they'll be avidly looking for it and it's trivially easy to find.

Nyac · 18/05/2012 00:05

I would totally agree with that Laurie.

I actually can't get over this generation of parents who haven't cared enough not to let their children be exposed to pornography.

Boys did not behave this way twenty or thirty years ago. Probably not even ten years ago.

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LaurieFairyCake · 18/05/2012 00:02

It might be a start if we recognised allowing children to access pornography was child abuse. And actually prosecuting parents who don't have parental controls on the Internet at home, who are fuckwitted enough to buy smart phones with no controls.

We need to start from the premise that preventing access to porn is a parents job and its neglect or abuse if they fail to.

Nyac · 17/05/2012 23:57

As far as I know schools are doing nothing about this. Girls are on their own.

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