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More choice for girls for their Summer Uniform.

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PippiBurnsTheBra · 04/05/2012 10:23

Speaking to friends and observing my DDs playing in the park after school has made me think that girls should have the choice of wearing shorts if they so wish as part of their summer uniform. After all such choice is available to them in the winter months. For those tomboy girls who would not wear a pinafore dress there is no other choice that wear boys trousers which really is not right (correct me if I am wrong) and also wearing a skirt, especially when older, may stop a girl from some activities which will result in displaying your pants to the entire school: climbing, playing on the bars, etc.

I'd be greatful for your opinion on the matter and what choice is available to girls in re to uniforms in your DCs's schools.

TIA

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lancelottie · 04/05/2012 11:49

Girls' navy skorts here, OP, if these are any good?

imnotmymum · 04/05/2012 11:46

high school same all year round, primary wear shorts [but not short shorts have to knee length so perhaps culottes]. My dd[10] wears dresses/skirts and wears cycling shorts under so she can hand stand at will and keep her modesty

PippiBurnsTheBra · 04/05/2012 11:42

I personally like both the culottes and the shorts you linked. Great for winter and great option for the summer too as long as not made of the same winter teflon material or it will defeat the purpose of freshenss and lightness. (A point valid also for the boys's short).

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PippiBurnsTheBra · 04/05/2012 11:35

I don't want to tell schools which type of shorts (gray, blue, gingham etc) they should chose for girrls, I just think there should be one type available in their official school uniform list, for those reasons exexpat explained much better than I did.

In my DD's school there are a lot of girls wearing trousers in winter (part of the school uniform) but a handful wearing shorts in summer. One reasons could well be that wearing shorts in summer equates wearing a 'boy's uniform' which will sadly put off a lot of girls.
Ideally there shouldn't even me a Boy's and Girl's uniform imo but let's discuss one thing at the time.

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MadameChinLegs · 04/05/2012 11:32

Im sure once we get into July/Aug there will be a wealth of choice. At the moment, shops tend to have the bare minimum in.

SardineQueen · 04/05/2012 11:30

the boys seem to be in the same uniform as winter but with grey shorts instead of trousers if they like (has been raining here so not many shorts around!)

girls the list just says gingham dress.

littleducks · 04/05/2012 11:29

Actually seeing exeepats link the shorts were like these minus the tights no idea if they were sold with tights or not then.

exexpat · 04/05/2012 11:28

Do you mean you'd need gingham shorts/culottes? I haven't seen any of those. Wouldn't grey shorts and plain or gingham blouse be OK? What do the boys wear?

SardineQueen · 04/05/2012 11:27

something like this will be great for next year though!

littleducks · 04/05/2012 11:27

The 'tarty' shorts were from last summer (nobody is in summer uniform here, its cold and rainy) so no link I'm afraid.

This is next's offering this year, I still wouldn't think them suitable for primary school tbh but they aren's as bad as last year.

SardineQueen · 04/05/2012 11:26

They've got to wear gingham at dd school though

exexpat · 04/05/2012 11:24

Next has a few styles of shorts and culottes but I think DD may prefer boys' ones again.

exexpat · 04/05/2012 11:22

DD (9) wore grey shorts at her old primary; she liked a boys' kind from M&S best, which were longish and had combat-style pockets on the legs, but she also had some girls' ones. I'm not sure what the uniform list said officially, but no one said anything.

She's now at a private primary and was asking this week if shorts were OK there too, so I need to check. Her favourite playtime activity is hanging upside down from climbing frames, so summer dresses are a nuisance - they get in the way when climbing, and fall down over your head when you are upside down, as well as exposing your knickers to crude comments from the boys.

SardineQueen · 04/05/2012 11:18

Culottes are great but I haven't been able to find any.

SardineQueen · 04/05/2012 11:17

Can anyone link to these supposedly "tarty" (yuck) shorts for primary school children?

crazygracieuk · 04/05/2012 11:17

I've seen girls shorts and culottes (skort?) sold in lots of places.

In my dd (Y4)'s class, the recent trend is to wear girl shorts with tights.

Before anyone asks, the girl shorts are cut differently to boys ones.

I have also noticed summer dresses that come in two parts- gingham shirt and skirt. I wonder if our school would say something if a boy turned up with gingham shirt and shorts combination?

SardineQueen · 04/05/2012 11:17

Just checked our primary school thing

Girls can wear trousers in winter but in summer they must wear gingham dress - no option of shorts or skirt

It is a pain as she is in recep and I managed to get through all winter clothes without ironing Grin but these summer things that's a no-go. Also before she would get stuff eg down her shirt and I'd wash that but skirt would be OK for another day, now it's a fresh dress every day. That is a pain and will run to money I think.

PippiBurnsTheBra · 04/05/2012 11:09

noticed

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PippiBurnsTheBra · 04/05/2012 11:08

cosmos, I am talking of summer dresses and skirts. Personally I have no issues in little girls showing their pants whilst on a climbing frame but some parents are not so happy about that, some girls start to be selfconscious I have notices and plus why should this be the choice: play and show or don't play?

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PippiBurnsTheBra · 04/05/2012 11:06

Our primary school is not strict so I am sure there would be no problem in girls wearing shorts. The problem I see is that for those girls that want to the only choice is to buy boys shorts and go against the flow, rather than choos an itam from the official uniform. I feel there should be a choice given and product to be bought. I don't want 'tarty' shorts for girls (I see your point littleducks) just normal shorts but tailored for a girl's body.

Does it make sense?

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C0smos · 04/05/2012 11:06

Is tucking your skirt in your knickers when you want to hang upside down not the done thing anymore?

PippiBurnsTheBra · 04/05/2012 11:02

helpyourself (love the name btw) yes that would be another great choice.

In have checked the following websites:

www.schooluniformshop.co.uk no shorts for girls at all
M&S has lovely shorts for the winter uniform but only in gray or black no blue
UniformDirect no shorts for girls
The School Uniform Company has none
Uniform 247 SchoolUniform247 has none
YousShoolUniform has none.

I will check more.

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post · 04/05/2012 11:01

Asda did lovely grey culottes shorts last year too

MadameChinLegs · 04/05/2012 10:59

Im assuming you are talking about primary school, OP? In which case, I dont think state schools are as strict as private, so surely a pair of smart girls shorts in black or grey wouldn't be frowned upon. I know M&S do a pair of cullotes in grey which are cut for girls but the same colour/material as a pair of boys school shorts.

littleducks · 04/05/2012 10:56

Salwar kameez would help with the problem of kids getting sunburnt in school, light material long sleeves/legs would help......don't see it catching on though!

Some girls wear tailored shorts (think next were selling them) but imo they are a bit 'tarty' and the unisex ones are better. This is primary, dd is in the infants (and wears a gingham dress with matching cotton shorts underneath whenever it stops raining!)